Evidence of meeting #49 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was know.

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MPs speaking

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Dominic Barton  As an Individual

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Who initiated those 12 meetings, would you say?

Can you—

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

He requested updates on the growth council. I was with then minister Morneau when we would have those meetings. There were multiple people.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Was that the sole subject of those meetings—only the growth council?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay.

How many times did you or McKinsey meet with the staff in the Prime Minister's office after his election in 2015?

You said it was a dozen for you. How many was it for other staff in McKinsey, other than yourself?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

I would be surprised if any of them did. I certainly wasn't aware of it.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

You're not sure if any other...?

Would you say whether any of the other McKinsey staff members met with the Prime Minister or anyone in the Prime Minister's Office after that time?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

I honestly have no idea.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay. That's interesting.

You helped arrange for the Prime Minister to meet many world business leaders at the World Economic Forum in Davos, as you just made reference to. He initiated that meeting.

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

Yes, the Prime Minister's Office initiated the meeting.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Who did you introduce the Prime Minister to at the World Economic Forum in 2016?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

I tried to grab whoever I knew who might be available. It's very busy. It was done very much at the last minute. It was kind of a, “Can you organize a breakfast?” People are busy. I can't remember.

It was people—

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Are you aware of any contracts that would have come out of the introductions you made at that time?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

No. Can I tell you something?

They were doing a favour to come there. There was not an interest in doing contracts. It had nothing to do with that.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Would you consider yourself a friend of Chrystia Freeland's?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

I knew Chrystia Freeland when she worked at the FT. I knew her from before.

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Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

What year would you say you met her?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

I can't remember. It was at an FT conference where she was moderating. She was a Canadian—

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Was this prior to 2015?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

When was the first time you communicated with her after the 2015 election?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

I can't recall. She's not someone I would be talking to regularly.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay. That's interesting.

How many times would you say you have you met with her?

4:40 p.m.

As an Individual

Dominic Barton

It has been maybe eight or 10. I don't know. It's less than a dozen.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

What were the subjects of those meetings?