Evidence of meeting #50 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

William V. Baker  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety
Doug Nevison  Director, Fiscal Policy Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Ned Franks  Professor Emeritus, Department of Political Studies, Queen's University, As an Individual

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Mr. Reid, we're on a motion on whether to move in camera, not on anything else.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

I understand, but my point is that—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I understand that, but I will....

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An hon. member

We did not.... [Inaudible--Editor]

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

I would like to call—

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An hon. member

Yes, we did.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

No we didn't.

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Can I have a recorded vote?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

You want a recorded vote on moving into camera?

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Correct.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

They use this only to silence this committee, to force it to—

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Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

It is a recorded vote on what, sir?

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

That is absolutely outrageous, Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

What are we voting on?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Mr. Godin has made a motion to move in camera, so I was taking some discussion on that. Mr. Albrecht has asked for a recorded vote on that motion, so we will go to that.

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Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Great. Call the vote, Chair. I appreciate that.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Thank you.

Madam Clerk, go ahead.

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The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Michelle Tittley

Mr. McGuinty.

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Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Sorry, what is the motion? Read the motion.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

That this committee do now move in camera.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Terence Young Conservative Oakville, ON

You want to hide in the dark, hide from the Canadian public.

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Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Yes.

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The Clerk

Monsieur Proulx.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Oui.

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An hon. member

It's the exact opposite of why we're here. The exact opposite.