Evidence of meeting #55 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was political.

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MPs speaking

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Nicolas Auclair  Committee Researcher
Andre Barnes  Committee Researcher

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Okay. They're hunting that down.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Actually, I'm looking in his material at the time. He mentioned it in response to a question from Mr. Lukiwski at more or less 2:50 in the afternoon.

He refers to departmental criteria...or he uses the term “departmental decision”. I do not see the term “administrative decision” used anywhere; it's “departmental”. He's not referring to “administrative”. He doesn't use that word.

12:20 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Andre Barnes

It was written in French. It might have been translated as that, perhaps.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Oh, I see. Okay.

But he actually was speaking in English.

12:20 p.m.

Committee Researcher

Andre Barnes

It was written up in French, though.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Chair, am I allowed to jump ahead and suggest an amendment to paragraph 38 at this point?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

No. I'd like you to hold that until we get to paragraph 38. I mean, certainly you can suggest it all you want, but we won't get there until we get there.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

All right.

Well, look, I still think paragraph 33 is....

Here's the problem, Mr. Chair. I think paragraph 33 shouldn't be there, but we can't get to paragraph 38, right...?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Make your suggestion; you would like to change some wording in paragraph 38 because they're related.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Yes.

How do you want me to do this? Do you want me to first suggest we do paragraph 33 and then have an associate amendment that causes paragraph 38 to change, or what's the...?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I'm happy with that.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Okay.

I'm suggesting, then, effectively an amendment that paragraph 33 be dropped.

12:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Is that “33b”?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

It's paragraph 33 itself.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

Yes; “paragraph 33 be”, not “paragraph 33b”.

I want paragraph 33 added back in.

Also, as part of this motion, I'm suggesting that 38 be amended in its second sentence, in the English version--I'm not talking about the French version--so that--

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

On a point of order. Are we--

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

We haven't had one of those yet today. Thank you.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

No, but I wanted to start....

Are we jumping now from--

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

He asked permission to talk about 38 because it was related, and I said give me both at the same time. We'll work on one at a time, but give them both to me. He's following my instructions, Mr. Proulx.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Okay, you gave him permission.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I did.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

In the second last line, and the last sentence, of 38, the word “administrative” gets taken out and “departmental” gets inserted.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

We're changing the word “administrative”, in the second last line, to “departmental” in 38, and then when we get there we'll--

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

I suspect in the French version it's a different story.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Does the change not apply if 33 is kept?