Evidence of meeting #3 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was way.

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12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I think that would be satisfactory.

We're sincere about this and I believe the heart of the government's intentions should be something that would align with this, because it represents no serious threat to the government's supporting this. If Madame Turmel is open to this—I think she has one more question to it—I think we might make some progress.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Nycole Turmel NDP Hull—Aylmer, QC

I have a procedural question I'd like to ask. For now, we can move this motion and put it on a future agenda to have time to study it at greater length. However, do we have the right to move a motion on internal procedure in the middle of a session? Shouldn't that kind of motion be passed before we start studying other matters? I want to be sure we can do that. If not, there's a problem.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Yes.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Just giving the position from the government side, clearly, as you know, we've talked ad nauseam that committees have the ability to set their own agendas. We're open to this, so my public offering to you is that you bring from your side at the next meeting a suggestion to engage in a study or discussion, or however you wish to frame it, on whether there's a possibility, or...and then we'll go from there.

12:45 p.m.

An hon. members

Sounds good.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

[Inaudible--Editor] at the next meeting, and we'll bring some homework to add to it.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes. That's fair.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

I have a couple of things.

I see a potential consensus to see your motion tabled, with the idea that at some point in time it will be brought back, likely at the next meeting.

We do have a guest coming in for our next Tuesday meeting—remember, we don't sit this Thursday.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

It will take 5 or 10 minutes. We've done this before.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Mr. Chair, again, this is just to support Nathan. I think he was saying that normally the way we've handled this in the past is to deal with the committee witness first and then deal with committee business in the last 10 or 15 minutes, which chair reserves at the outset of the meeting. If we can do it in that fashion that should give us lots of time to dispense—

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

You're comfortable with that, Nicole?

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NDP

Nycole Turmel NDP Hull—Aylmer, QC

Yes.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Okay, so the issue before us has been tabled. We anticipate that next Tuesday we'll have our first witness on the MP transparency issue and that at the end of that meeting we'll be dealing with some other form of a motion to pick up from where we left off.

Is there anything else that people...?

12:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

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The Chair

What time is it?

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Elizabeth, I'd have to ask for leave for you to speak.

Is there unanimous support to allow Ms. May to speak?

12:50 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

To be very brief, we responded to the letter that the Chair, Joe Preston, sent on the other matter of the ways in which the cluster of nine members of Parliament who fall into the smaller parties or sit as independent MPs would share and rotate the one seat. As we deal with the matters that are within Peter Julian's motion on the Board of Internal Economy, we'll be prepared to work with whatever the committee decides. I'm just hoping there isn't a little bit of a bottleneck there, because we've suggested how we think it will work. With all the committee business that you had today, we don't really know how you think it will work.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Elizabeth, I've taken a brief look at it. At first blush it looks fine. As you know, you and I were very engaged in conversations on this matter last June, so I think we're fine with it, but I'd like to just give it a good thorough read. We can certainly discuss it at the next meeting, but right now I see no reason to.... I think you've articulated it well, the agreement that we had.

12:50 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

We will be here on Tuesday morning in that other capacity for participation, and as soon as this committee knows the full number of committee meetings that will deal with that matter, it will be easier for us. As you can imagine, we're not really all of one mind, although we're all in the same boat. To sort out which member has the microphone on any given day, we've got Bloc, Green, and Independent.... It will help us when we know how many meetings we have so that we can set up a rotation. Otherwise, we can make it up as we go along. We're in your hands.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

The point has been taken. If there's nothing further—

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

It depends on....

Oh, we've had the recorded vote on that, so that's fine.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Chair, just in terms of...we've got witness lists. I don't see any—

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

There is a witness list before us. The names have been submitted and individuals have been contacted.