Evidence of meeting #3 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was way.

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12:50 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I may be missing this or it hasn't been submitted yet, but there aren't any witnesses coming from the government as of yet.

This is something that obviously affects all members, government members included, so I don't know if there's been an oversight on the staffing part or whether witnesses are forthcoming, but we need to do some planning. We're under a clock, and we also need to have at least some openness, which we've heard expressed officially, to more meetings than what we have booked so far.

We've yet to resolve the Mr. Bezan affair. I think we have differing opinions as to whether this committee is going to be seized with that in the coming weeks and months.

Those are two questions.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Why don't we start with Tom?

In regard to your witnesses, are you...?

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes. I know that in the past we've always given a deadline for witnesses to be submitted to the clerk and the like. I'd like to see a little bit of flexibility here, because we're in a bit of uncharted waters in terms of allowing suggestions for witnesses to be submitted, maybe not with a hard and fast deadline but with the will of the committee, because I think testimony might come forward. I think we will have a few witnesses whom we'd like to bring forward.

This captures most of them, I should say, but I think that if we hear certain testimony, perhaps as to what other jurisdictions are doing and how they're handling it, this committee may then want to bring forward someone from that other jurisdiction who is not currently on the list, either through a teleconference or a personal visitation, to try to get a little more in-depth information.

Just because this is the first time that we as a Parliament are really going down this path, I think we need some flexibility. My suggestion to the committee, if they concur, is that we don't put a firm deadline on witnesses, that we see how the discussion unfolds, and that if we feel collectively there's a need to add someone to the witness list—which may ultimately amend our schedule and we'll have to add more meetings or something like that—we will have the ability to do so. I just don't know if we're really sure as a committee about how many witnesses and whom those witnesses should be as we start this discussion. I think it's going to evolve a little bit as we get into the discussion itself.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

The second point, which is pretty quick, is the thought of having additional meetings.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Well, that's going to take a bit. We're open to it. Maybe what I would suggest is that at the next meeting, when Chair Preston is back and we're allowing 15 minutes or something at the end of the meeting to discuss future business or new business, we can discuss it at that time.

What I'm suggesting has perhaps happened; I don't know if it's going to be agreed upon by the opposition. It may be to form a quick little subcommittee. Maybe three or four members could get together and look at the calendar, because I don't know, frankly, what's on the parliamentary calendar. I don't know what times would be best. I don't know the other committee business or responsibilities that members of the opposition have.

Kevin, you probably sit on several committees.

Why don't we talk about setting up a mechanism that can explore when, where, and how we're going to have these initial meetings?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Tom, what Nathan has already implied somewhat is that we do have a subcommittee. Maybe that grouping of four or five people will get together and see what they can do.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes. That's fine with me.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Okay?

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

And report back?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

And report back.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

It would be very good if that committee would report back as soon as possible, right?

12:55 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Like Thursday. They could meet tomorrow—

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Yes. They can meet this week and then report back.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

Okay. So the subcommittee can attempt—

12:55 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

December 2 is coming fast.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Yes, so is Christmas.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Kevin Lamoureux

So pending Joe, the chair's, availability, how about the Monday? We'll see what we can line up.

The meeting is adjourned.