I think a lot of work and research needs to be done in terms of understanding various company cultures, so who are the people we see every day and what are the understood, normal kinds of expectations.
I think if we work in an environment where there are only men who are leaders, then there are subtle ways of giving messages that only men can be leaders. Part of the work we want to do is understand how we can encourage women to take on leadership roles and, if they wish, to prepare them for those roles.
So it's an evolutionary kind of relationship, but you first have to have role models and other women who are already fulfilling that role, so we create another image of leadership and then we find out what women need, and how they will deal with organizational cultures, and we move forward that way.