Evidence of meeting #75 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

You'll need unanimous consent for that, but let's deal with one thing at a time here.

Go ahead, Ms. Chow.

9:20 a.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

I heard the clerk say last time that the aboriginal amendments were out of order. May I hear the rationale for the home child care amendment being out of order?

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Ruby Dhalla Liberal Brampton—Springdale, ON

Could you give them once again?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

I'll give you the Liberal ones first: Liberal 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10; and then NDP amendments 0.1, 0.2, and 2. Once again, all these amendments are ruled out because they go beyond the scope of the bill.

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ruby Dhalla Liberal Brampton—Springdale, ON

Thank you. We'll do a package.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Thank you. I appreciate that. I feel much better about that.

I will mention that the home child care amendment was within the scope so that was not ruled out of order.

I will rule all these motions out of order. Is the ruling of the chair sustained?

We'll have a recorded vote.

(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 6; yeas 4)

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Let's move on then.

Yes, Mr. Lessard.

9:25 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

Mr. Chairman, I heard Mr. Silva say that he wanted to vote with the Bloc and I'm delighted.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

I'm pretty sure it's a block of motions.

9:25 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC

All kidding aside, when we voted to overturn your decision, it affected all of amendments.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Yes, just the block of amendments that have been proposed, that's correct.

We're on clause 5, and once again we have Liberal amendment L-5. Who's going to move that?

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Mr. Chair, may I test the floor to see whether my friends would agree to vote en bloc? I know it has to be unanimous. Yes, we can do it as a block?

9:25 a.m.

Some hon. members

Yes.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Okay. So what I have is a—

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

Lynne Yelich Conservative Blackstrap, SK

It's not because we think that's the intelligent thing to do, but the bill is so lacking academia that it doesn't matter.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Ms. Yelich, you made that point yesterday and again this morning. So thank you very much.

Here's how we will handle this then. The first thing we'll do is we'll vote on the block of amendments that has just been proposed and then we can go back to the clauses as amended.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Can I clarify one question, based on what Ms. Chow had said? That block that we just talked about and just voted to overrule you on, were they all the ones dealing with aboriginal peoples?

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Yes.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

So there were no other ones in there. I just want to clarify that.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

No, just the ones that were ruled out of order.

Let's deal with the amendments first then.

All those in favour of the amendments that I just talked about: amendments 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10, which are Liberal amendments--

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ruby Dhalla Liberal Brampton—Springdale, ON

A recorded vote, please.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

And NDP amendments 0.1, 0.2 and 2.

So we have the motion on the floor. Ms. Dhalla has asked for a recorded vote.

(Amendments agreed to: yeas 6; nays 1)

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

The amendments are carried.

Here's what we'll do now. We'll just go by each clause now.

(Clause 5 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 6—Early learning and child care services )

9:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Under clause 6 we've got an amendment by the NDP. It's NDP-1, and I believe it's the one with home child care.

Would you like to read your motion?

9:30 a.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

The amendment is that Bill C-303, in clause 6, be amended (a) by replacing line 37 on page 4 with the following:

agency, organization or govern-

(b) by replacing line 2 on page 5 with the following:

agency, organization or govern-

(c) by adding after line 10 on page 5 the following:

(c) provided by an individual authorized under provincial or territorial law to provide such services.

This allows the province the flexibility to have the licensed home care that is now present in almost all the provinces and territories. It provides very valuable services. It's regulated home care. They provide the flexibility that is needed, and this accomplishes that goal.