Evidence of meeting #75 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON
Mr. Chair, we will provide our consent on this side to discussing the amendment that Mr. Savage has put forward if the members from the Bloc and the New Democratic Party do the same, and then we can discuss it.
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Here I was thinking I was going to get to have breakfast before 10 o'clock. That may not be the case.
I will then, with that, thank the departmental officials. You don't need to sit around for this potentially painful process over the next two hours. We can see if we can talk it out until noon, use up all our time.
Thank you very much for being here again, and for the legislative clerk as well. Although it's not the weekend yet, I wish you guys a good weekend.
Mr. Lessard.
9:45 a.m.
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
Mr. Chairman, I too would like to take this opportunity on behalf of the Bloc Québécois to thank you and congratulate you on the way you've chaired these proceedings. We have no qualms about entrusting you with the responsibility of presenting this to the House.
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
9:45 a.m.
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
Before the amendment is tabled, I'll like someone to read it to us.
9:45 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Most definitely. What we're going to do is ask for Mr. Savage to hand out the motion right now to everybody.
9:45 a.m.
Liberal
Michael Savage Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
Mr. Chair, I don't have it in both official languages. Do I need unanimous consent?
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
9:50 a.m.
Liberal
Michael Savage Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
Would I have unanimous consent to consider this in the one language?
9:50 a.m.
Bloc
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Here's what I'm hearing. We don't need unanimous consent to talk about the motion because you can read it in and it will be interpreted. However, you would need unanimous consent to hand out the motion.
So why don't you read the motion? That's the way we can handle it. The interpreters can then translate that in French for the Bloc.
9:50 a.m.
Liberal
Michael Savage Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
Thank you, Chair.
The motion is:
That the Department of Human Resources and Social Development provide the committee with: the list of non-profit organizations and private companies that applied for funding and were denied funding under the Canada Summer Jobs program, and that information be provided on a riding-by-riding basis, and that the department provide the amount of funding distributed by Canada Summer Jobs program on a riding-by-riding basis for 2007.
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Thank you very much.
I'm just wondering if there is going to be much debate on this. I know we talked about it at the previous meeting, so I would encourage members to keep the debate short. If they have some points to make, by all means we'd be happy to hear them on the record, but could we keep the responses quick. I know we've discussed this.
I have a few people on my list right now: Mr. Lessard, Mr. Lake, Ms. Chow, Mr. Silva, Ms. Dhalla, Ms. Yelich, and Mr. Chong. So much for having a quick and speedy exit.
All right, we're going to start with Mr. Lessard.
9:50 a.m.
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
I'm just trying to understand, Mr. Chairman. What does this add to the motion, or change? We adopted two Bloc motions at last Tuesday's meeting. Unless I'm missing something here, it doesn't change anything.
9:50 a.m.
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
If the motion is deemed to be in order, then I will move a sub-amendment.
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Sure.
The original motion brought up the fact that they wanted a list of people who had actually qualified. With this motion, Mr. Savage wants to try to get a list of people who applied but did not get the funding. So that is the primary difference. Mr. Savage is hopeful to get a list of people who applied for funding but were denied, as opposed to the original motion. That is the primary difference here.
I'll move to Mr. Lake.
I have Mr. Lake, Ms. Chow, Mr. Silva, Ms. Dhalla, and Ms. Yelich.
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
I have a couple of things. I'm not sure if I heard this, but do we have anything in there about being subject to the Privacy Act? Maybe that should be in there.
Secondly, my understanding is that this information is not available riding by riding, but only by province and nationally. So in terms of the actual list that we could have access to, and that would be tabled—
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
I just want to mention here that the department cannot go against the law, whatever it is. You have mentioned this, so it's on the record. But I would just suggest that if the department cannot provide the list because of privacy legislation, that would be the case. I'll just mention that.
But go ahead, Mr. Lake, if you want to finish up.
9:50 a.m.
Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
The other thing is that this is a challenge because we don't have it in writing and we don't have it in both official languages, and I can't look at it. It was only said once, and it's a long motion.
First of all, is it a motion or are we making an amendment to the motion?
