Evidence of meeting #1 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was liberal.
A recording is available from Parliament.
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
No. These are routine motions that are given out. There are a few additional ones that we have adopted, such as paying for child care expenses and things like that, but they're all pretty much the same across the board.
The subcommittee is typically made up of the two vice-chairs and the chair, so that's—
3:35 p.m.
Liberal
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
We're going to bring these forward now and discuss them. These are just samples from other committees of what's gone on.
Judy.
3:35 p.m.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
I'd like to have a list of previous motions showing how the committee proceeded before and how you're suggesting that—
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
3:35 p.m.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Could we deal with this at our next meeting, when we've had time to do that comparison?
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Sure. They were distributed last week, so if you don't have them we have extra copies of what was adopted last time we were here.
Go ahead, Michael.
3:35 p.m.
Liberal
Michael Savage Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
These are quite different from what we adopted previously, from the rules under which this committee has operated since I've been on it and I think since before that. Because of the substantive change in what is being proposed, I wonder if we could--
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
We're going to go through each one individually. All I asked the clerk to include was a set of routine motions from another committee. You have the one before us. We're going to go through each one individually. We will not be adopting the whole set. We'll be adopting each one in its due course. We'll go through each particular one.
We'll go to Judy.
3:35 p.m.
Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Just further to that, Mr. Chair, I'm getting this information at this point when we haven't had a chance to review it in advance. Would it not be helpful, in terms of time efficiency, to review these things individually so we know whether we have any issues with them, and then deal with them at our next meeting?
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Well, no, I would suggest, since the only order of business today is to set the routine motions, that we go through them. That's the only order of business for today other than electing the chairs. If you look at the way it's worked before for our subcommittee on agenda and procedure, it has comprised the chair, two vice-chairs, and one member of the NDP.
The reason I asked for the handout was because I sat in on a foreign affairs committee. The only additional thing was that they asked for the parliamentary secretary to be included. If we're happy with the way it's operated here before, then my suggestion is that we just go with the subcommittee the way it was handled before, unless there's any other discussion on that notion. All I have here is for comparative purposes. It's not to be confusing, but just to look at what other committees have been doing.
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
3:35 p.m.
Conservative
Lynne Yelich Conservative Blackstrap, SK
Well, there are a few little tweaks that could be improved. Right now we've just passed the first committee on agenda and procedure.
3:35 p.m.
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
Mr. Chairman, I did receive the routine motions. I took the trouble to review them one by one. There were only two that raised questions for me. However, the document that we were given this afternoon is not the same. I'm wondering why we were sent a document which is not the one on which we have to vote. I'm having the same problem as my colleagues on my right.
3:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Mr. Lessard, the document that was sent out last week was the list of routine motions from 39-1, which we operated under before. This list of routine motions was from when I sat in on a committee for foreign affairs. They were standard motions I just asked to have included so we could consider the ones we already have versus ones that are going on in other committees.
So the second list that was handed out was the list of routine motions that we operated under during the first Parliament, or during the last time we were here.
Go ahead, Mr. Lessard.
3:40 p.m.
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
Mr. Chairman, wouldn't it be more appropriate to repeat the routine motions that have already been adopted, since they are the ones that were sent to us? If anyone here thinks that they should be amended, let them table those amendments, and we will study their merits.
I don't think we should take the time right now, as a group, to examine what goes on at the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development in order to draw comparisons. We had examined that earlier. I imagine that if you're proposing this today, it's because you think we could improve some of our procedures. I have no problem with that, but instead of working with two documents, perhaps you could deal with this point by point and tell us where you want to make an amendment.
I don't feel comfortable going from one to the other. I would start with this one. That's my suggestion. Otherwise, Mr. Chairman, I would suggest that we resume this debate next time.
3:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Thank you.
No, Mr. Lessard, we're going to go through each one individually. The one we're going from is the one from the last time; so these are the motions we've had before. The only reason we have before us those other lists of routines of what other committees are doing is for comparison.
The first proposal I'm going to put before you is that the subcommittee on agenda and procedure be comprised of the chair, two vice-chairs, and one member from the New Democratic Party.
Is there any discussion on that?
Mr. Lake.
3:40 p.m.
Conservative
Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB
I just want to clarify procedure here.
In terms of moving the motion, when you read it, are we going on the basis of the way it was last year, or does somebody have to move...?
3:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
I'm going to propose the way it was the last time. If anyone wants to make changes, then this will be the time to talk about it.
