Evidence of meeting #5 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

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4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Dean Allison

Thank you.

We're going to move to Madame Bonsant, for five minutes.

December 3rd, 2007 / 4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

Thank you.

Minister, I only have five minutes, so my questions will be clear and specific. I'd like some clear and specific answers.

In view of everything that happened at Canada Summer Jobs and the ensuing debacle there, I'd like to know how much the management of that program cost in 2007.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

I'd have to get back to you with the precise numbers on the management costs; I don't know that I have that handy. It was a program that provided jobs for 42,000 students, and for longer durations, so I think it would be a bit of stretch to say that it didn't work out for students.

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

I agree because I've been working on the Canada Summer Jobs file since 2004. It's a victory for the Bloc. You centralized it in Montreal and, as a result of our pressure, it went back to Human Resources in Sherbrooke, in my riding. It's duplicated.

I'd also like to know the Canada Summer Jobs' budget for 2008? Do you know it? Are you able to announce it to us?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

Well, I won't be announcing that today. But I can tell you that we tried to reflect a lot of the concerns that people raised with respect to criteria, budgets, all these kinds of things. We will be coming back to you soon with an explanation of what we intend to do.

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

That means it's still $45 million, what the former minister said it was.

I have examined your appropriations. You said that $82 million had been allocated to Indian residential schools. On page 232 of the document, we see that $36 million was transferred to other programs.

How is that?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

I have the press release from 2006, actually. What occurred was that we paid $82 million to the common experience payment. There was no funding that came from the common experience payment to Canada summer jobs. None of that has changed. I'd be happy to walk you through some of the particular numbers, if you can help me out with what you're looking at.

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

We'll come back to that. I have other questions.

In addition, in your own Budget 2007, it was stated that the amounts allocated to persons with disabilities and youth, particularly in respect of training, were to be transferred to Quebec and the provinces.

Where do the negotiations with the provinces stand in this regard?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

I'm sorry, are you talking about in the budget, or are you talking--

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

Yes. You said in your budget that you would transfer money to the jurisdictions of the provinces, that is youth, persons with disabilities, and not Aboriginal persons, but the three parties...

4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Immigrants.

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

Immigrants; pardon me.

I want to know how far the negotiations with the provinces on this matter have gotten.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

Those are the labour market development agreements, $500 million, and we announced that we would explore the feasibility of transferring some of this programming to the provinces. We are having those discussions. We have no mandate to go ahead and simply make that transfer, but we wanted to explore that with our provincial colleagues. We're still doing that; we're in that process now.

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

France Bonsant Compton—Stanstead, QC

You don't have any mandate from the provinces. Do you have a mandate from Quebec? Training is a provincial jurisdiction. I was wondering where matters stood with Quebec's Minister of Labour.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Monte Solberg Medicine Hat, AB

Well, I can tell you that the officials are discussing these things. As I said before, it is a question of establishing the feasibility. We're not entering into negotiations with the provinces on that at this time.