Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will be very quick.
To the two ministers, to pick up on what my colleague was just saying, access means people being able to access EI at the front end, because if you can't get it, you can't benefit from any of the other programs, and that's just in terms of the hours.
I want to go to Minister Ambrose if I may. In the estimates, for the Canadian Artists and Producers Professional Relations Tribunal, the chair says that she feels compelled to note at this point that however optimistic she is with respect to the board's hard work, because they cannot form a quorum they have a problem doing their job. Could the minister tell us why this board, which looks after a tremendously large number of our artist industries, is looking at operating problems because they can't get a quorum, because they don't have enough members on the board? Why are there no members?