Since the act came into place in 1987, there has been a combination of everything. First of all, if you put the legislation in place, you want to help employers to understand what their obligations are, as well as helping them with the tools to enable them to carry out what is intended within the Employment Equity Act.
There are guides to help employers understand what they should be doing under the act. There are people within the labour ministry who can come in and help them understand what has to happen. That's really on the contractor side, but it's been embedded for such a long time within the system that we're actually seeing the benefits associated with putting this act into place.
As I indicated before, what is key, which we have seen in the newspapers today, is that before the creation of this act, women accounted for only 5% of the executive jobs in the public service and now they account for 43%. Today, if you take a look at this table alone, you can see your employment equity action at work--except for Mike.