Well, there are issues in industry with.... All of the apprenticeships are monitored and maintained by a joint apprenticeship council, so you would have employers and the labour providers monitoring the system, but it's not very formalized. I think industry needs incentives to move people through. The joint apprenticeship committee between employers and labour providers tends to be pretty informal. I think those need to be beefed up and maybe there's some public policy way that we can figure out how to do that.
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