It is successful. It's quite labour intensive, and it takes quite a while. It is a one-on-one program, so employers have to be prepared to do that one by one. The number of people who benefit from it is relatively small, but it is successful when it's done.
The other program, just to mention it quickly, is a woodworks program by the Wood Manufacturing Council. They have developed programs for, basically, grades 11 and 12 to help young people be ready to work when they come out of school. They may not be that interested in staying in high school, but they get into something that is more hands-on and more apprenticeship-oriented. It isn't quite an apprenticeship program. It's something like an early apprenticeship program. It has been used, interestingly, in a test case in a penitentiary to prepare aboriginal people before they come out of the penitentiary.