I'm listening and I've allowed it, and I keep making the point.
I don't want to have to cut you off and not allow more questioning, but really, members, it's evident that through your questioning and your preambles, you're making certain political points. Really, the minister is not here to answer the broader range of political questions. She's here for the estimates today, so please, get to the point or else I'll have to make a ruling.