Yes, I'm very familiar with it, actually. In 2010, I approached the National Seniors Council to have the word “intergenerational” added to its grant process, so that we could start that dialogue. I've been involved with the pan-Canadian program, and I've also been involved with quite a few smaller grants.
I think that what was spoken about earlier, just the whole idea of episodic grants.... It's actually quite a small grant. It's great for small projects. Part of that application states that it would like that to have sustainability, so you have to show that you can keep it going. That's not always possible, so it kind of fades away.
The smaller grants are really good for some things, and for some things they just absolutely don't work. They're not an answer to the kind of work that we're doing where we're trying to work nationally, encouraging people to train for intergenerational activities.