I'm not exactly certain of the statistics you're reporting there. I do remember a report by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. I don't remember any specific provisions referring to the Community Futures Development Corporations.
What I can say is that the Department of Western Economic Diversification has been out of the business of providing loans to small business for about 12 or 13 years now. At this point, we are in the business of collecting on loans that were made that period of time, but for almost the last decade and a half we haven't made any of those loans. It's not a business line that we've been in, other than to continue, of course, collecting the loans that were made a long time ago.
In fact, in the supplementary estimates today we are in the fortunate position of actually referring to excess collections, where we collected even more than was anticipated. That's in the supplementary estimates before the committee today.