Minister, the issue is not knowing what figures are in public accounts, but rather determining what accounting methods and processes were used and then raised by the Parliamentary Budget Officer. That is what my colleague wanted to say. He did actually specify, during question period, that he knew that the Perimeter Institute had not received that money and had therefore not spent it. He never made an accusation against the institute. He was actually questioning the accounting methods used. The Parliamentary Budget Officer picked up on the same thing.
On December 7th, 2011. See this statement in context.