I understand totally where Thérèse is coming from. We're friends from way back; we share some history.
Twelve people are being asked to state whether somebody should be brought up for parole before the parole board.
If you have a manipulator, which a lot of these incarcerated gentlemen are—they're expert manipulators—they can manipulate 12 people. It's nothing to them. They're already doing it in prison. They have their networks in prison they're manipulating. So if you have 12 people off the street who aren't given all of the facts and the evidence from the case—and I'm not saying this doesn't happen—they can be manipulated to come up and say, “Let's pass this to the parole board”.
I don't want to create any bad feelings here, but parole boards are appointed people. They're not necessarily qualified people; they're appointed people.