Evidence of meeting #35 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was process.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Don Head  Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada
Marie-France Pelletier  Executive Vice-Chairperson, National Parole Board
Gilles Trudeau  Director, Office of Criminal Affairs and Matters, Barreau du Québec
Michael Mandelcorn  Regional Director, Criminal Lawyers' Association
Ed McIsaac  Interim Director of Policy, John Howard Society of Canada
Rick Sauvé  As an Individual

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

I believe it requires a legislative change, but I'd have to get back to you on that.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Who is looking at this type of amendment?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

It's within our department.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

That is, within Corrections, not Justice?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

It's within Public Safety.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Do you have any idea when you'll come to a conclusion as to whether you're going to move with that legislation?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

Part of it is linked to Bill C-39. It has the amendments for information to go to victims.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

For the ones who are denied at the interim application, have you kept statistics on how many are denied for the full ten years—that is, who can't apply until the 25 years are up—and how many have specific shorter days?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

We have a chart of those we know of for whom reductions occurred. Most of them appeared to be one-year reductions. Several had five-year reductions, but in terms of the ones with...no, we don't collect that data.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

I'm sorry. Did you say the number that appeared was a one-year...? I don't understand the term “reduction”.

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

I'm sorry. It's when they had their parole eligibility period reduced from 25 years to 24, or from 18 to 17; that's what I meant by reductions—after it's gone through the jury phase, phase two.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

I'm sorry, I wasn't asking about the jury phase; I was asking about the interim phase.

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

On the phase one, no, we do not collect that data.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Do you know whether the victims' families are notified when the interim application is turned down?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

Again, the....

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

That's not something—

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

We do not do that as routine, no.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

I'm not clear from both the briefing and the answer you gave Ms. Jennings: if a person says to you prior to one-year release eligibility that they're not going to apply, do you begin preparing that documentation anyway?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Okay. So what happens then? Do they have to come to you somewhere after—let's use the standard 15 years. Do they have to come to you then and advise you they now want to apply?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

There are two avenues that can occur. One is that they will come to us at a later point, or, just as part of normal case management engagements with the offender, the parole officer a year or two years down the road will engage the offender again and ask them if they have any interest in pursuing that.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Do you do that on an ongoing basis each year or so afterwards?

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

Yes, but not necessarily as a matter of policy.

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NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Just practice.

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Commissioner, Correctional Service of Canada

Don Head

That's right.