Absolutely. Any crime perpetrated against a child, whether it's through child pornography or right to the extreme, I do believe we have to have a minimum sentence. It sends a message to the perpetrators and it also sends a wonderful message to the victims. That is the biggest cry for the people I deal with, and for me. There doesn't seem to be anybody caring about what happens to the victims. So absolutely there needs to be a minimum.
In my experience also, with all due respect to what you were commenting on, Mr. Norlock, when the judges do have discretion, they don't give maximum sentences. I don't know if I've ever seen a judge yet give a maximum sentence. So I like the fact that there's a minimum sentence and they don't have an option, because I just find that the judges are very, very soft on crime. That's been my experience, with all due respect here.