Okay.
In fact in 2008 based on the stats—and I know there are better stats today—there were almost three times more kidnappings and abductions that took place than did in 1980.
I guess my understanding, and I did some work as I said in this area.... It's very disturbing. Excuse me.
Based upon your experience, Mr. Freeman, not only as a police officer, what do you think is a reasonable disposition for these people?