Evidence of meeting #63 for Justice and Human Rights in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was reporting.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Spratt  Member, Criminal Lawyers' Association
Raji Mangat  Counsel, British Columbia Civil Liberties Association
Karen Audcent  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

March 6th, 2013 / 7:25 p.m.

Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

Karen Audcent

No, the report that Parliament gets is on the federal. The provincial has the responsibility to make their numbers public. It could go to a provincial legislature. But we don't dictate to the province on that level of detail. We just say to make it public. So the province could table it in the legislature. They could put it on the Internet. They can publish it however they see fit.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

But they would have to publish it.

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Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

Karen Audcent

They would have to publish it. That's the requirement.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

I see, but it wouldn't necessarily be reported to Parliament.

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Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

Karen Audcent

Not necessarily, no.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

Mr. Mai.

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NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Basically, what you're saying is that this amendment doesn't really add much to the reporting being already done, being already public, so we don't really need to have an amendment like this that would give us more information as parliamentarians. Is that correct?

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Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

Karen Audcent

The amendment wouldn't give anything more in terms of the information if what you're looking for is the global number per province. That information is already going to be required as part of the reporting. The information about the level of breakdown of police forces isn't provided right now in any of the reporting schemes.

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NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Maybe Mr. Scarpaleggia can answer if he has consulted with provinces with respect to asking them in terms of work that they would have to do in terms of reporting by agencies. I don't know if that has been discussed with provinces.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

Are you asking staff that question?

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NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

No, it was more—

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

No, I haven't done any consultations with the provinces. I'm prepared to actually withdraw this now that I understand that the information is available. It will be available on a province-by-province basis. I'm quite satisfied with that answer. I have no problem requiring the provinces to report these numbers to the federal government, but if it's already out there, then that allays my concerns. I take your point, Madam Audcent, that reporting by police force might provide some information to organized crime that would bolster criminal efforts. I certainly don't want to do that.

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NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

We'd be the first to point it out.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

I will withdraw the amendment.

(Amendment withdrawn)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

Thank you very much.

(Clauses 5 to 7 inclusive agreed to)

Shall the short title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

Shall the title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

Shall the bill carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

Shall the chair report the bill to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Mike Wallace

I'll do that—

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NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

Can you do it on the 14th of April?

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