It's probably people who are going on the reserves and coming back with truckloads of cigarettes. They're not being caught when they drive away from the reserves. Then they go into their neighbourhoods and distribute these products even to kids.
I'm taking Quebec as an example. We discussed with them. We said it's very important to address the source of the contraband, which is blocking what's coming from the reserve. But you also have to address what's going on in neighbourhoods.
The Quebec government created what is called the access committee in 2000. The access committee set aside a budget to put special teams of investigators—there are about 10 of them—across the province in the most important municipalities. There are also roaming investigators from the QPP, who go everywhere to address what's happening on the ground, in the communities.
We don't see that in Ontario. That's missing. One of the problems we're seeing is that it's not necessarily considered a priority, considering the budget cuts to many police forces.
Having the funds available to create these special teams worked in Quebec. Actually, the drop in contraband has been far more effective in Quebec compared to Ontario. So if that were available and you had these investigators working in communities, it would seriously help with that kind of situation, where we're seeing kids get their sources of contraband tobacco in their neighbourhoods.