Evidence of meeting #27 for National Defence in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was harassment.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Thomas Lawson  Chief of the Defence Staff, Department of National Defence
Robert P. Delaney  Canadian Forces Provost Marshal, Department of National Defence
Blaise Cathcart  Judge Advocate General, Department of National Defence
David Millar  Chief of Military Personnel, Department of National Defence
Jennifer Bennett  Champion for Women in Defence, Department of National Defence

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Norlock

Thank you very much, Ms. Sgro.

Before the chair recognizes Mr. Williamson, I'm looking at the time. This committee has booked some in camera time to discuss some future travel business, etc.

Mr. Williamson, you'll have one minute, and then the chair will excuse the witnesses.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Thank you.

It touches on the subject matter at hand. At the top of the committee at 11 o'clock, my colleague Cheryl Gallant talked about the external review that was under way.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Norlock

Does this have to do with the motion, sir?

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Yes, it's committee work, and the gentlemen here can answer this. I'm curious to know how long that study will take. How long will that review take, do you anticipate?

12:50 p.m.

Chief of Military Personnel, Department of National Defence

MGen David Millar

At the current time, no time limit has been put on it. The terms of reference will be such that it will permit the Independent Review Authority to really look fulsomely at our workplace, our workplace culture, and the programs, policies and procedures, everything from training to reporting, that we have in place to create that environment that—

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Okay. Can you ballpark it? Two years? A mandate? Or will it be the length of a royal commission and take 10 or 12 years?

12:50 p.m.

Chief of Military Personnel, Department of National Defence

MGen David Millar

Sir, I cannot ballpark it. That will be up to the Independent Review Authority.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

So potentially in years...?

12:50 p.m.

Chief of Military Personnel, Department of National Defence

MGen David Millar

I don't know, sir.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Norlock

Thank you very much, witnesses, for appearing.

As I mentioned, if you wish to complete certain responses or add additional information, that would be greatly appreciated by the committee. Before we adjourn to do the in camera business as per the agenda, I will say that we will discuss this further at the appropriate time and place.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Can we vote on it now, sir?

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Norlock

As I say, we are well over time now and we can continue this discussion at a later time, because these motions and the work of this committee are generally discussed in consultation in camera. However, we can approach the subject at another time.

Thank you very much once again, madam and gentlemen, for appearing.

This portion of the meeting is suspended. We will go into camera. Please, if there's an onslaught of media, could you help usher them outside the door? We have work that we must complete. Thank you.

[Proceedings continue in camera]