Evidence of meeting #4 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was offenders.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Don Head  Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada
Renée Collette  Executive Vice-Chairperson, National Parole Board

4:15 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

It varies by state. For example, in North Dakota, which has a significant aboriginal population, the number of individuals who are in the correctional system and are of aboriginal ancestry is relatively low, but then you have to look at the powers that have been given to the communities for overall criminal justice activities, and that may be a significant factor that plays into that.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Mr. Wappel, we have to move on to the next—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Tom Wappel Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

Thank you very much.

It's amazing how fast seven minutes goes.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes. It was a little more than that.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Tom Wappel Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

Thank you, sir.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Bloc Québécois, Monsieur Ménard.

4:15 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Many members of the public view criminals as outsiders who react in the same way.

Obviously, I realize that this isn't true, but the best way to know that is by looking at the sociological profile of offenders. Quebec has drawn up such a profile and based on the responses that you have given, I know that you have such a profile as well. Has this sociological profile been made public?

4:15 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

Yes, it's coming out through our research report that talks about the changing offender population profile.

4:15 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

You've prepared a brief summary for the general public?

4:15 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

Yes, most definitely. In terms of some of the statistics I talked about, it will go into breaking it down by region and more specific information related to women, aboriginal offenders, etc.

4:15 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Is it available on the Internet?

4:15 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

Not right at the moment. Once the research report has been approved, it would be released for public consumption.

4:15 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

And when will that be?

4:15 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

I think before the end of June.

4:15 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Now then, have you calculated the daily and annual cost to the correctional system of incarcerating one inmate?

4:15 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

So you're looking at the cost of maintaining an offender by security level.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Yes.

4:20 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

We do that calculation every year and it gets updated. Right now the updated information is for fiscal year 2004-05. I just have to find the break-out.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

If you don't mind, could you share that information with us at the end? The question period is rather short.

4:20 p.m.

Senior Deputy Commissioner, Correctional Service Canada

Don Head

Yes, I will.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Ms. Collette, I see that you have performance indicators to measure success and that you use them. Did you in fact say that only 10 per cent of offenders who complete their parole re-offend in the long term?

4:20 p.m.

Executive Vice-Chairperson, National Parole Board

Renée Collette

That's correct. Approximately 10 per cent of individuals on full parole re-offend in the long run. In 9 per cent of these cases, the offences are property related, while violent offences account for the remaining one per cent of cases. For those on statutory release, the rate is marginally higher, although I can't recall the exact figure. The success rate is somewhat lower for offenders on statutory release.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

You've given us an overview of offenders who have been conditionally released. Is this overview also available for consultation on the Internet?

4:20 p.m.

Executive Vice-Chairperson, National Parole Board

Renée Collette

Our annual performance report is always posted on the Internet. In terms of offender profiles, we rely on great deal on statistics and information received from the service. I'm also a commissioner and attend meetings regularly. The federal and provincial inmate population profiles -- because we do both -- are fairly similar to the one drawn up in Quebec. The profile reveals socio-economic, literacy and mental health problems. The profile paints a very accurate picture of offenders.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

You stated that prospective NPB commissioners are interviewed and that you make recommendations to the government.