If I understand correctly, Mr. O'Brian lied or lost his grip. I don't understand. Why did Mr. O'Brian tell us that and why are you now telling us he will be sending clarification? I admit I'm a bit lost. Mr. O'Brian seemed to me to be an experienced person who had thorough knowledge of your agency. Are there any officers who use information obtained by torture without your knowledge? Is that what you're telling me?
On April 2nd, 2009. See this statement in context.