I'll comment on both issues. I'd like to mention that my experience with private sector forensic applications is that because it is a very narrow and small field, it's not a really profitable business to get into. Historically, the people who have provided private service in forensic science have been those who provide testimony for alcohol and impaired driving, because there's a large volume of court work, or people who do handwriting comparisons, because they don't have a lot of overhead to deal with.
There have been some small ventures into DNA in Ontario. Maxxam was mentioned, and there are some at Lakehead University. Generally, these are businesses that are tacked on to another kind of forensic business, such as paternity testing, where you have the volume. It's a small field, and it often comes because they can attract people who are already fully trained from labs like ours and the RCMP's, and perhaps the Quebec lab. So there is that difference.
Could you remind me of the second part of your question?