Evidence of meeting #28 for Public Safety and National Security in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was fadden.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Can we also have access to these photographs, after Mr. Fadden?
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An hon. member
They're right off the military institute's website.
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NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Don Davies
I was going to suggest, if we could have a break at a suitable time, we will get copies made for all members.
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
My point, Mr. Chairman, is that I was invited to the RCMI to give a speech. I was told it was members of the RCMI and guests invited for police appreciation night.
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Conservative
Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON
But when you look at those, I think you would agree that the audience in fact was a cross-section of the community at large.
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
It's unclear to me how by looking at a person who's not in uniform you could deduce that person isn't a policeman or an intelligence officer.
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Conservative
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
Except that when we asked the RCMI, they indicated it was their membership and invited police.
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Conservative
Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON
So in this case, at this black-tie reception, you decided to share the information, but for the next three months, you didn't notify any of the provincial governments you were speaking about there?
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
Again that was because we were still working on our file. I was trying to give that audience a sense of granularity, which I don't think they understood I was doing.
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Conservative
Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON
Do you know who was at that black-tie event? Were you provided a list of attendees?
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
To be honest, I do not remember.
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Conservative
Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON
Do you know if the people in attendance had security clearances?
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
No, I assumed they did not have security clearances. As I said earlier in my comments, nothing I said violated national security, and nothing I said would require a security clearance. Just about everything I said, with the exception of those specific examples you are referring to, which I again say I regret making, was in the public domain, and had been put there by either the service or me or my predecessor. So there was no need for security clearances.
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NDP
The Vice-Chair NDP Don Davies
Okay, thank you. That's your time, Mr. MacKenzie. I gave you extra time for the point of order.
Mr. Kania.
July 5th, 2010 / 11:45 a.m.
Liberal
Andrew Kania Liberal Brampton West, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Sir, first I just want to establish the timeline. It was on March 24, 2010, that you had this dinner and you gave your speech. Is that correct?
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Liberal
Andrew Kania Liberal Brampton West, ON
Thank you.
The interview with Mr. Mansbridge was June 22, 2010.
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Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
I did two with Mr. Mansbridge: June 21 and June 22.
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Liberal
Andrew Kania Liberal Brampton West, ON
Now, before June 26, before you made those comments, were those specific comments reviewed and approved by anybody in the PMO, PCO, or by the minister, the national security adviser, or anybody at all?