Evidence of meeting #27 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was technology.
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Conservative
Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
However, it sounded to me as if you're thinking that if there's more information needed, you don't want to limit the officials.
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Liberal
Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC
I'm thinking honestly that it would take one meeting, but if we get on—
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Liberal
Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC
Yes, I mean one two-hour meeting, but if we get onto something really interesting and then we find we need to know more, perhaps we could have a second meeting.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
Then would you accept Ms. Hoeppner's friendly amendment to that motion, which is that the minister would appear for the first hour and that the department would appear for the other...?
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Conservative
Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
Would it be okay if we agreed to this motion as you've written it and as I've amended it, with the understanding that...? As with some of our other studies, it may be that once we get going, we may realize that we need more information. Maybe we could have some discussions and come to agreements among all the parties.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
All right. It sounds as though the two of you have that agreement, but I do have others on the speaking order here.
Go ahead, Mr. Sandhu.
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NDP
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
All right. Are we ready for the question, then, for the motion as amended?
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Conservative
Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
My amendment is "for one meeting at the minister's and officials' earliest availability".
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
All right. Let's just do it all in one here. Are we all in favour of the motion as amended, instead of the amendment first and then the amended motion? Are we all right with that?
(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
At the first availability, I would encourage the table to get on that. Remember we have a number of other.... Just hang on, Mr. Rathgeber. It appears that someone else wants to speak on committee business, so that's why I'm asking everyone to stay.
We have a number of other meetings already scheduled, so there may be an opening. I also want to remind the committee that there will be some legislation coming within the next number of weeks, so we need to work together to get this invitation out as soon as possible to make certain we can complete that motion.
Did we do that? Was everyone in favour?
5:15 p.m.
NDP
Jasbir Sandhu NDP Surrey North, BC
At the end of the last meeting we had some discussions around the immigration officials at CIC not wanting to come to the committee in regard to electronic monitoring. I looked at the motion for this study. It's clearly stated in there that the immigration enforcement setting is part of this study, so I think it's important that we hear from them directly, and that we invite them again, and with a little force.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB
I would agree. I think it's important that they know we think there is more information that they can provide, and maybe invite them one more time, in a friendly way, but we would like to hear from them.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Rick Norlock Conservative Northumberland—Quinte West, ON
By all means they should be here, but I was also very interested in Mr. Grant's testimony, and I would like to hear more about the efficacy of monitoring and its worthiness, so we might have immigration officials for two hours, or perhaps one hour, and have one hour on efficacy, etc.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
Generally speaking, when we invite witnesses, we invite for a one-hour segment. If people back out suddenly, sometimes we ask the witnesses from the first hour to stay a little longer and we work through that. However, we will invite them again. We will send out another invitation, thank them for responding before, and tell them that we have brought this to committee, as well as that the committee wants them to attend and expects them to attend, perhaps.
