The Elizabeth Fry Society has an MOU with the Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services whereby, with some initial seed money, they were able to create an enterprise through which women offenders can participate in a company and obtain some skills recycling roofing materials, so it has an environmental dimension to it as well. That has a social, environmental, and economic benefit, because these women are then employed in some meaningful employment with skills development.
One point that's important to remember is that social innovation has different elements, whether or not it's a social finance approach in which there is both a social benefit and an economic benefit. Shawn talked before about pay for performance, where there is that clear economic benefit if there's a demonstrated outcome at the end and a clear savings. There is pay for performance, the social impact bonds, which we've talked about already, and then there are other social investment funds that pull capital from investors to provide loans and mortgages and venture capital for not-for-profit organizations for social purposes.
There are different types of social innovation. I don't know if the committee is planning on having ESDC present, but they are leading the government initiative, so it would be helpful for them to walk you through these different tools.