Evidence of meeting #27 for Status of Women in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rcmp.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Barry MacKillop  Director General, Law Enforcement and Border Strategies Directorate, Department of Public Safety
Michel Aubin  Director, Federal and International Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Megan Imrie  Director, Horizontal Policy and Planning Division, Canada Border Services Agency
Rick Stewart  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Marie-Claude Arsenault  Non-Commissionned Officer, Human Trafficking National Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

That's your legal entity.

12:45 p.m.

Supt Michel Aubin

We're very focused. A lot of work is being done on massage parlours by the RCMP or other law enforcement agencies, and that's where we're educating the police officers. When they go in and realize that it's not massage and that what's going on is an illegal activity, they'll look at it from a perspective that's beyond the illegality and consider whether we're talking about victims of human trafficking. Right now, many times the RCMP is going in with Toronto police, Montreal police, or Vancouver police, and they're looking at it, so there is a lot of awareness going on. They've already started on the efforts in going down that road, but more work has to go into it. I have to be honest with you.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you very much.

Tilly, you have one and a half minutes.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Thank you for being here with us today. I really enjoyed your presentation and I appreciate all the work you're putting into this.

You've touched on my question in a way. After they're found guilty of this, you started to say they're not left out in the cold. What are some means of education or partnership that are put in place to help these people regain their self-esteem and change their lives around?

12:45 p.m.

Supt Michel Aubin

Do you mean for the victims?

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Yes.

12:45 p.m.

Sgt Marie-Claude Arsenault

Again, it's all a matter of partnerships and working with the communities and NGOs to help reintegrate the victims afterward. Is that what you're talking about? Is it after the offence?

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tilly O'Neill-Gordon Conservative Miramichi, NB

Yes.

12:45 p.m.

Sgt Marie-Claude Arsenault

There are some law enforcement agencies that specifically work with some community groups to help the victims gain their self-esteem back and to work on problems they may have and so on. It's basically to work with our partners to make sure that they are dealt with.

12:45 p.m.

Supt Michel Aubin

I'll give you an example. In British Columbia, a prime example was the Pickton farm case. We have victim management services within the RCMP. In this example we were dealing with the ladies who were involved in prostitution and who came and testified to the courts. A lot of help was provided to them through victim management services to help them regain their confidence and self-esteem and find a way to carry themselves in life. A lot of support went in so that these people would gain that confidence and come before our courts and testify.

It's something that's recognized. Law enforcement has certain--

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you, Mr. Aubin.

I'm sorry, Tilly, your time is up.

Thank you so very much. I must say I was very impressed. You had a very comprehensive and clear set of reports. You literally supplemented each other, and it was very good. Thank you for coming, and thank you for answering all those questions that were thrown at you.

Now I will suspend for two minutes. We must finish this little piece of business in camera, so we will suspend to go in camera. I will ask those people who do not belong in the room to leave, please.

Thanks very much.

[Proceedings continue in camera]