Evidence of meeting #8 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
We have another amendment. I'm hoping everyone has it in front of them.
Any comment?
Mr. Harvey.
12:15 p.m.
Legal Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Transport
Yes. This one is similar in kind to the previous one; it's technical. It's been brought to my attention by the drafters essentially to have tighter wording...with the remaining parts of the bill that are referred to.
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
It's a technical amendment.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 46 as amended agreed to)
(Clauses 47 to 60 inclusive agreed to)
(Schedule agreed to)
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Now we have to go back. I think there's some work being done to clause 15.
We're going to suspend for a couple of minutes while we get the translation, if that's suitable to everybody. It shouldn't be very long.
12:34 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
I'm thinking that everyone now has new subclause 15(2) in front of them, in English and in French.
(On clause 15--Regulations)
Mr. Masse.
12:34 p.m.
NDP
Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move new subclause 15(2). A translation has been provided.
I appreciate the mercy of at least taking into account some of the concerns that have been expressed with regard to this legislation. I think one of the things to keep in context is the fact that this is giving serious changes to legislation that previously my municipality had some influence upon. It has created some awkwardness for me, and some concern.
The legislation does a lot of good things in many respects, but this is one about which I have some reservations, and this, explicitly at least, brings in other levels of government for consultation, which is important. I think it's important not only just for Windsor but for many other regions that have to have access to decision-making and input.
12:35 p.m.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
Mr. Chairman, since I assume the government agrees with the new subsection 15(2), I will gladly support the bill. As I already indicated, as the former President of the Union des municipalités du Québec, I'm happy to entrust some powers to municipalities.
12:35 p.m.
Liberal
Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB
Mr. Chair, along the same vein, I would like to know the position of the parliamentary secretary and the government. To me, I would not agree if I were sitting in his position, but if they do agree, I certainly would vote for it.
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I would say the compromising position of the Conservative Party is why we're in power and you're not.
12:35 p.m.
Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
12:35 p.m.
Don. Bell
You're in a compromising position?
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
When you're on the other side, I'm always in a compromising position.
12:35 p.m.
Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I would just like to say that we're very happy with this particular motion. We think it's appropriate, and it will help Canadians.
The other issue, of course, is new clause 15.1, and I don't want that to be left out in the back, after we deal with that, of course.
12:35 p.m.
Liberal
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Yes, this is the new subclause 15(2).
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 15 as amended agreed to)
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I think this also deals with some of the comments Mr. Masse brought forward earlier, which is the consultation with the municipality as well.
I just want to make sure, Mr. Chair, that we deleted paragraph 15(b). Is that correct?
I think it's straightforward. It just takes out, in essence, paragraph 15(b) and puts it into new clause 15.1, to deal with the same issue. So unless there are any comments from the department, I think it's very straightforward, and it actually deals with consultations from other levels of government too, which of course is something we all want.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(On clause 43--Regulations)
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
12:35 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
This is the clause we were discussing before in relation to hazardous goods. I can confirm to Mr. Masse that in my opinion I think the committee should, at the very first opportunity--because we are going to be dealing with safety in all modes of transport--deal with dangerous goods. I would ask for the consent of the majority of members that we would give assurances to Mr. Masse that we will deal with the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act from a federal perspective when we deal with the safety of all modes of transport, which we are going to do immediately. That is my understanding. We're all very interested in this.
