Evidence of meeting #18 for Veterans Affairs in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was veterans.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Claude Petit  President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association
Alastair MacPhee  Policy Advisor, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Betty Hinton Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

What is a traditional food?

4:30 p.m.

Policy Advisor, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Alastair MacPhee

Oh, I'm sorry. Traditional foods would be deer, moose, wild salmon, rabbit. It would vary across the country and according to the aboriginal group you're dealing with--Métis, Inuit, those on reserves.

I think that's the best way I can answer your question.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Betty Hinton Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Well, in terms of deer, moose, caribou--you name it--for the first 10 years of my life, that's precisely what I ate. My father was quite a hunter. By the way, I am Métis.

To get back to what we can do for you today in terms of the health care review, you did also mention that you are not a part of the Gerontology Advisory Council. I gather from your comments that you'd like to be part of that. I'm thinking you would probably come at that from a cultural perspective.

Is that your intent? Is that why you want to be a part of it, that you believe there are differences between the cultural needs of aboriginal, Métis, Inuit, and non-aboriginal people as far as the gerontology part is concerned? Is that the reason you'd like to be part of it?

4:30 p.m.

Policy Advisor, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Alastair MacPhee

Absolutely. I think for the credibility of an exercise like the one being undertaken, it has to have aboriginal engagement and aboriginal people speaking on those issues. Ideally, aboriginal veterans would speak for themselves. That would be the purest form.

As you've heard Claude say, the NAVA organization has no capacity to be engaged in that type of activity. However, if there were capacity dollars for them to do that, they could do that.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Betty Hinton Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Before he cuts me off--and he will, he's vicious--

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

You're already cut off.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Betty Hinton Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Oh, he did. Never mind.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Anders

I just go by the clock. You all agreed on it originally.

Thank you, Mrs. Hinton.

We'll now go to the Liberal Party of Canada. We're on the second round, so it will be five minutes instead of seven.

Mr. Murphy, for five minutes.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Petit or Mr. MacPhee, you may have stated this in your opening remarks, but I didn't pick it up. Your organization represents status, non-status, Métis, and Inuit?

4:30 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

Is there a separate organization representing other status aboriginal veterans?

4:30 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Claude Petit

There wasn't supposed to be. This is why this organization was formed. It was formed by Ron Irwin. At that time he was the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

But is there now?

4:30 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Claude Petit

Well, we're trying to keep it together, but they're breaking off. They're receiving money, so.... You know, that talks.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

From what you're saying, then, there is another aboriginal veterans organization that's receiving money?

4:30 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

And they're based out of what province? Or is there a head office in Ottawa here?

4:35 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Claude Petit

Well, the first nations president comes out of Sarnia. I was at a meeting with him last week here in town.

But they're a global funding organization. They fund their own veterans; there's no funding going directly to their veterans.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

Okay.

And I thank you very much for your presentations. I listened carefully.

Let's deal with the VIP program. This is a great program. This is a good program, one of the better programs that the government offers. It's not as extensive as it should be, but it is a good program.

You're saying it's not a matter of eligibility, it's that the program is not geared toward aboriginals living in rural and remote parts of Canada, and it's not geared toward the aboriginal culture. Is that correct? If aboriginals wanted to go through all the hoops and bells and whistles, they would qualify if they were entitled to it. Is that right?

4:35 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Claude Petit

Certainly.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

But does Veterans Affairs have any employees of aboriginal descent working for them to go to these areas and deal with the aboriginal community?

4:35 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Claude Petit

I know that in Saskatoon, where I come from, they have one aboriginal person working there. I don't know how much he travels. He came to one of our meetings and explained the VIP program, which is what you're talking about, and some other new programs for veterans who are coming back from Afghanistan--stuff like that.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

What you're saying--and I agree with you--is that somebody who lives in rural Saskatchewan, in a remote aboriginal community, has to deal with somebody in, I assume, Regina. Is that correct?

4:35 p.m.

President, National Aboriginal Veterans Association

Claude Petit

Regina or Saskatoon.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Shawn Murphy Liberal Charlottetown, PE

So there isn't a connect between the bureaucracy in the larger cities and the people living in the remote and rural areas.