House of Commons Hansard #99 of the 36th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was citizenship.

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Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Brant
Ontario

Liberal

Jane Stewart Minister of Human Resources Development

Mr. Speaker, I would note that not even the privacy commissioner is asking us to stop collecting and using this information.

I want to make it clear that I agree with the privacy commissioner that right now the information is being managed wisely and well. Through encryption and other mechanisms, the information is secure.

I would also agree with the privacy commissioner that we have to be careful as we move forward into the future to ensure that we have appropriate mechanisms in place to make sure this information continues to be secure. We will do that.

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

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Bloc

Michel Gauthier Roberval, QC

Mr. Speaker, two years have passed since the privacy commissioner informed the government that this practice made no sense.

However, according to the rule that people are not guilty until they are caught, nothing happened, as usual in the other files. The minister signed agreements with eight provinces to obtain even more information on the citizens of Canada. That stopped with Quebec, it did not work with Quebec, because the law in Quebec does not permit this sort of data collection.

When will the minister stop this data collection activity?

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

2:35 p.m.

Brant
Ontario

Liberal

Jane Stewart Minister of Human Resources Development

Mr. Speaker, again I want to point out that the privacy commissioner is not saying the information should not be collected. What he is saying is that it should be collected in a fashion so that the information is protected. We are doing that now. We will continue to work with the privacy commissioner to make sure that into the future the same confidence that Canadians need to have in this process will be sustained.

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

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Reform

Dick Harris Prince George—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Speaker, the minister when confronted about constant problems in her ministry always says that they are taking steps and never mind what happened and the mismanagement that went on.

We are not talking about an old internal audit; this was in 1999 and it says “currently a formal national information technology security awareness program has not been established within HRDC”. That is from the minister's own internal audit department.

I have a simple question. How can Canadians possibly believe the assurances—

Human Resources Development
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The Speaker

The hon. Minister of Human Resources Development.

Human Resources Development
Oral Question Period

2:40 p.m.

Brant
Ontario

Liberal

Jane Stewart Minister of Human Resources Development

Mr. Speaker, again we see members of that party taking certain things out of context. They are very selective in the kinds of things that they report.

Again when we are talking about this particular audit, we see that the survey says that our information technology security processes were satisfactory by the risk management assessment. It says that HRDC security processes were consistent with what private and federal institutions use.

Those members do it over and over again. They try to scare Canadians when indeed what is happening here on this side of the House is that there is good administration, an administration that is committed—

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The Speaker

Order, please. The hon. member for Prince George—Bulkley Valley.

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Reform

Dick Harris Prince George—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Speaker, if that was her final answer, she needs a lifeline perhaps from the lapdog who shares her desk.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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The Speaker

Order, please. I ask the hon. member to please withdraw the word lapdog.

Human Resources Development
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Reform

Dick Harris Prince George—Bulkley Valley, BC

First, Mr. Speaker, I actually like puppies.

Human Resources Development
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The Speaker

The hon. member for Verchères—Les-Patriotes.

Cinar
Oral Question Period

May 17th, 2000 / 2:40 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Verchères, QC

Mr. Speaker, for weeks now the Minister of National Revenue has been using confidentiality as his justification for refusing to provide the RCMP with information on the CINAR affair.

How could the Minister of National Revenue decently use the argument of absolute secrecy to justify his refusal to provide the RCMP with information on CINAR, when all this time his department was providing Human Resources Development Canada with T1 and T4 income information, as well as information on child tax benefits?

Cinar
Oral Question Period

2:40 p.m.

Outremont
Québec

Liberal

Martin Cauchon Minister of National Revenue and Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)

Mr. Speaker, at the risk of repeating myself once again, part one of the answer is that I cannot comment on a specific case, as the hon. member of the opposition has just done.

Part two is that I would like to tell the Canadian public that the element of confidentiality found in the legislation is a cornerstone, one we as a government are going to protect.

Part three is that, in reference to sharing information with Human Resources Development Canada, this is done according to the act, section 24(1)(c) in particular, for programs we administer jointly with Human Resources Development Canada.

Cinar
Oral Question Period

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Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Verchères, QC

Mr. Speaker, since the minister can never give an answer in this House and everything is done behind the scenes, can he tell us whether he has been informed by the privacy commissioner, as was his colleague at Human Resources Development Canada, that this transfer of information by his department was, at the very least, inappropriate?