House of Commons Hansard #38 of the 37th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was energy.

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Petitions
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

John Cannis Scarborough Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, I present this petition on behalf of hundreds of Canadians, not just from Toronto but from all over.

The petitioners call upon the government to request that the marbles from the Parthenon be returned to Greece. The petitioners are asking that these marbles which belong in their original form on the Parthenon be returned. They were taken away under questionable circumstances and they would like them to be returned prior to the 28th Olympiad in 2004.

Questions Passed as Orders for Returns
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Halifax West
Nova Scotia

Liberal

Geoff Regan Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, if Starred Question No. 29 could be made an order fo return, the return would be tabled immediately.

Questions Passed as Orders for Returns
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Speaker

Is it agreed?

Questions Passed as Orders for Returns
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

(Return tabled.)

*Question No. 29
Routine Proceedings

December 4th, 2002 / 4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Guy St-Julien Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik, QC

Can the Minister(s) responsible for the Canada Elections Act and/or Elections Canada and/or the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for Quebec provide the following information: ( a ) according to the information insert and the Supplement to the Canada Gazette, Part I (August 31, 2002), what is the exact population of each city, town, village, non-designated area, Indian reserve, etc., included in each of the proposed new federal ridings of (1) Abitibi, (2) Ahuntsic, (3) Anjou, (4) Arthabaska, (5) Aylmer, (6) Beauce, (7) Beauport, (8) Berthier, (9) Bourassa, (10) Brossard, (11) Chambly, (12) Charlesbourg, (13) Charlevoix, (14) Châteauguay, (15) Chicoutimi, (16) Chomedey, (17) de l’Outaouais, (18) des Mille-Îles, (19) Deux-Montagnes, (20) Drummond, (21) du Saguenay, (22) Duvernay, (23) Gaspésie, (24) Gatineau, 925) Hochelaga, (26) Hull, (27) Joliette, (28) Labelle, (29) Lachine, (30) Lac-Saint-Jean, (31) Lac-Saint-Louis, (32) La Pointe-de-l’Île, (33) LaSalle, (34) Laurentides, (35) Laurier, (36) Laval, (37) Lévis, (38) Longueuil, (39) Lotbinière,(40) Louis-Hébert, (41) Manicouagan, (42) Mégantic, (43) Memphrémagog, (44) Missisquoi, (45) Montcalm, 46) Montmagny, 47) Mont-Royal, (48) Nunavik, (49) Outremont, (50) Papineau, (51) Pierrefonds, (52) Portneuf, (53) Québec, (54) Repentigny, (55) Richelieu, (56) Rimouski, (57) Rivière-du-Loup, (58) Rosemont, (59) Saint-Hubert, (60) Saint-Hyacinthe, (61) Saint-Jean, (62) Saint-Lambert, (63) Saint-Laurent, (64) Saint-Léonard, (65) Saint-Maurice, (66) Salaberry, (67) Samuel-de-Champlain, (68) Shefford, (69) Sherbrooke, (70) Terrebonne, (71) Trois-Rivières, (72) Vaudreuil, (73) Verchères, (74) Verdun, (75) Westmount; ( b ) what is the area (in square km) of each of the 75 ridings listed above; ( c ) in which newspapers was the information insert included for distribution; ( d ) what was the cost of producing the insert; ( e ) what was the cost of distributing the insert; ( f ) what method (software or other) was used by the Commission to define the population of each of the proposed ridings; and ( g ) did Elections Canada participate in the process of defining the population of each of the proposed ridings?

Questions on the Order Paper
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Halifax West
Nova Scotia

Liberal

Geoff Regan Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that the remaining questions be allowed to stand.

Questions on the Order Paper
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Speaker

Is it agreed?

Questions on the Order Paper
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

Motions for Papers
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Halifax West
Nova Scotia

Liberal

Geoff Regan Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I ask that all Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers be allowed to stand.

Motions for Papers
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Speaker

Is it agreed?

Motions for Papers
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

Request for Emergency Debate
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Speaker

The Chair has a notice of an application for an emergency debate from the hon. member for Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough.

Request for Emergency Debate
Routine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Peter MacKay Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, NS

Mr. Speaker, I gave notice to the Chair with respect to this request.

My request arises from the Auditor General's report yesterday in which the Auditor General gave the House a damning report on the abuse of Parliament and the taxpayers of Canada by officials of the Department of Justice in their incompetent handling of the gun registry program.

I will quote directly from chapter 10 of the December 2002 report of the Auditor General of Canada. That chapter deals directly with the Department of Justice costs of implementing the Canadian firearms registry. The Auditor General said:

Accountable government requires that the members of Parliament be able to approve the government's plans for spending and scrutinize the results of that spending. To do this properly, Parliament needs sufficient information about costs and expected results.

Request for Emergency Debate
Routine Proceedings

4:10 p.m.

The Speaker

This is an application for an emergency debate. I am not going to hear readings on this. The member will have to put his point very quickly as to why we should have an emergency debate on the topic he is choosing. I am going to have to hear that.

I am not going to hear long readings from reports that have been tabled in the House. That is for the speech if the debate is granted, which we would all look forward to, I am sure. In the meantime I want to hear why he thinks we should have an emergency debate and that is all I really want to hear.

Request for Emergency Debate
Routine Proceedings

4:10 p.m.

Progressive Conservative

Peter MacKay Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough, NS

Thank you for your patience, Mr. Speaker. I will go directly to the quotations of relevance. The Auditor General said, “Even though the department has many explanations for this ballooning of costs”--this is the underlying part--“it never shared any of them with Parliament”. The Auditor General went on to say, “What is really inexcusable is that Parliament was in the dark”.

In botanical bureaucratic terms, this means that it was like mushrooms on a manure pile, the strategy in short being that it grows until somebody notices the smell.

Tomorrow the House will be asked to approve more than $62 million in additional funds for the gun registry, a program that is already estimated to be in the range of $1 billion. The government has failed to justify in any way this raid on the pockets of the taxpayers of Canada. The minister has yet to come before the House to justify this additional spending.

An emergency debate, I suggest to the Chair, is the only vehicle left for the House of Commons to hear an explanation on this issue. The minister has not made a ministerial statement. The time for committee examination and supplementary estimates is over. They have been returned to the floor of the House. The government has no initiatives or mechanisms in the House to shine light on this $1 billion mismanagement of public funds.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I ask that you order this debate to take place so the House can be fully informed of the situation through a full debate before we pour millions more into this $1 billion cesspool. Canadians need to know why Parliament was kept in the dark and where the money is going. The Chair obviously knows the criteria for this type of debate. To do anything less, I would suggest, is to ratify the grossly improper actions of the Department of Justice.