House of Commons Hansard #57 of the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was inquiry.

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Ethics
Oral Questions

11:25 a.m.

Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam
B.C.

Conservative

James Moore Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services and for the Pacific Gateway and the Vancouver-Whistler Olympics

Mr. Speaker, one meeting took place with Mr. Cadman because we wanted him to rejoin the Conservative Party.

Chuck Cadman was a long-standing friend of many of our colleagues here. In fact, he supported the Prime Minister when he ran for the Conservative Party leadership. He was a long-standing friend of the current Prime Minister. Therefore, there was a meeting to encourage him to rejoin the Conservative Party.

With regard to the budget vote and what has been alleged here, it is not true. Chuck Cadman himself said so in two nationally televised interviews. He said that no offer was made.

Ethics
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11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Vancouver Centre, BC

Mr. Speaker, the first reaction of the government is to say anything but the truth.

Yesterday government members said that Mr. Cadman's wife and daughter were not telling the truth. They pretended that the only meeting with Mr. Cadman took place on May 19. However, there was a meeting on May 17 where a $1 million bribe was offered. It was organized by the Minister of Natural Resources, and the Prime Minister knew about it.

I repeat the question. Who represented the Prime Minister at the meeting with Mr. Cadman on May 17?

Ethics
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11:25 a.m.

Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam
B.C.

Conservative

James Moore Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services and for the Pacific Gateway and the Vancouver-Whistler Olympics

Mr. Speaker, I did not know my colleague from Vancouver Centre had the ability to transform herself into a fly, fly through a door on to a wall and be at a meeting she had no part in whatsoever. She claims that there was definitely a meeting and this was discussed. She is wrong.

A meeting took place. All three people at the meeting said that no offer was made. The only discussion that took place was our desire to have Chuck Cadman rejoin the Conservative Party and continue his support of the then leader of the opposition, now the Prime Minister of Canada.

Chuck Cadman said that no offer was made. I hope my friend from Vancouver Centre will accept Chuck Cadman's word, if she does not accept mine.

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11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Keith Martin Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

Mr. Speaker, an offer was made. The Prime Minister's words were caught on tape when specifically asked about the—

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11:25 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Speaker Peter Milliken

Order, please. The noise level has been excessive, in my view, throughout question period. Now I cannot hear anything. We have to have some order in the House.

I would encourage members who want to have discussions, like perhaps the member for Wascana and the member for Peterborough, to go out into the foyer of the House and have their discussions there while question period goes on in the House. It is very difficult. I see the chief government whip is suggesting the member for Abbotsford might like to carry on some discussions as well, and I agree this could be done.

There are several members on both sides who seem to constantly make excessive noise while we go on with questions. We are now into a question and we will have an answer, and I hope we will have a little more quiet.

The hon. member for Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca has the floor.

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Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Keith Martin Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

Mr. Speaker, an offer was made. The Prime Minister's words were caught on tape. When specifically asked about the $1 million insurance policy, did he deny it? No, he did not. He said of the offer to Chuck, “it was only to replace financial considerations”. He went on to say that the Conservative envoys “were legitimately representing the party”. Those are the facts.

Will the Prime Minister come clean with Canadians on his role in this sordid affair and agree to tell everything he knows to the RCMP?

Ethics
Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam
B.C.

Conservative

James Moore Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services and for the Pacific Gateway and the Vancouver-Whistler Olympics

Mr. Speaker, yesterday, when the first question on this came up by the Leader of the Opposition, he started off by saying that Chuck Cadman was an honourable man. Everybody in the House gave him a standing ovation, including the member for Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca.

Chuck Cadman said that no offer was made. The member for Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca just said an offer was made. In doing so, he is saying that Chuck Cadman is a liar. That is what he is saying now.

Chuck Cadman said “no offer was made”. He said it in two nationally televised interviews. That is the truth. Those are the facts. The member should accept it.

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11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Keith Martin Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

Mr. Speaker, maybe the hon. member ought to speak to his own Prime Minister who has admitted an offer was made and such an offer is a criminal offence. His own words were already captured on tape and they prove he knew about the plan to offer the bribe.

My question for the member is this. Can the Prime Minister table any proof that there was an internal investigation into the actions of the officials, or will he just admit that there was no investigation because he condoned it right from the start?

Ethics
Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam
B.C.

Conservative

James Moore Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works and Government Services and for the Pacific Gateway and the Vancouver-Whistler Olympics

Mr. Speaker, again, there is one central fact here that the Liberals refuse to accept. It is a simple and obvious fact. There were three people at the meeting. All three of them said that no offer was made. It is simple. It is clear. It is obvious. It is on the record. Chuck Cadman said so in nationally televised interviews on both Global and CTV.

My friend from Esquimalt knows that Chuck Cadman was an honourable man. He would not go on national television and lie about this file. He spoke the truth. He said there was no offer. I hope my colleague accepts his word.

Public Works
Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

Bloc

Meili Faille Vaudreuil-Soulanges, QC

Mr. Speaker, there was political interference and scheming in the Prime Minister's Office and the fact that it failed does not mean that there was no interference. There were apparently several meetings and communications between Soudas, the unelected Minister Fortier and his office.

Is this not a prime example of superficial ethics, duplicity and hypocrisy on the part of this government?

Public Works
Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

York—Simcoe
Ontario

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Minister for Democratic Reform

Mr. Speaker, the record is clear: no special favours were handed out to the parties involved. It is clear and simple.

Public Works
Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

Bloc

Meili Faille Vaudreuil-Soulanges, QC

Mr. Speaker, Minister Michael Fortier said yesterday, upon leaving committee, that pressure did come from the Prime Minister's Office, but it came from him, the minister. Even if he is just bragging, Michael Fortier is admitting that there was political interference.

Will the Prime Minister acknowledge that the many interventions between his office and that of Mr. Fortier meet all the definitions of the term “political interference”?

Public Works
Oral Questions

11:30 a.m.

York—Simcoe
Ontario

Conservative

Peter Van Loan Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Minister for Democratic Reform

Mr. Speaker, there was no political interference. It is clear: no favours were granted.

Jean Lapierre said that in all honesty, after examining the Radio-Canada and other reports, he did not see any smoking gun or scandal. And so it has been for all the other scandals the opposition has come up with.

Airbus
Oral Questions

February 29th, 2008 / 11:30 a.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Speaker, the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics has completed an important step: gathering information and holding public hearings. On January 11, the Prime Minister stated publicly that he would set up his commission of public inquiry as soon as the hearings ended.

The hearings are now over. Will the Prime Minister keep his word and appoint a commissioner as soon as possible to launch this public inquiry?