House of Commons Hansard #53 of the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was artists.

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Disturbance in Gallery
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3:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

Order, please. The hon. member for Malpeque has the floor.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Malpeque, PE

Mr. Speaker, the individual walked out peacefully. Yes, there were security officers around him but he left--

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh.

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Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

Order, please. I find it very ironic that we are talking about decorum in the gallery and yet the House will not give the member for Malpeque the civility and decorum that the Speaker has asked for.

The hon. member for Malpeque.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Malpeque, PE

Mr. Speaker, that is in fact the problem, which leads me to the key point on why the incident took place in the first place.

The government member talked about respect for this institution. If we were to talk to the individual who held up the signs and shouted from the gallery, he would tell us about the respect that he has lost for democracy as a result of the government's actions in terms of how it is basically doing away with the Canadian Wheat Board.

Those individuals sat here while the minister answered questions. I can assure the House that, from their perspective, they do not believe the minister's answers were fully honest, if I can put it that way. The individual is a young farmer. Those individuals strongly believe that this is an important debate and that this institution and the government should be allowing hearings on this major issue in western Canada. That is what those people believe. They believe their voice has been taken away. They know their vote has been taken away. The individual did what is right in a democracy by standing up in civil disobedience against the actions of the government, which is doing undemocratic things.

That is why it happened. It should not have happened but the blame does not rest with the member for Churchill. The blame falls right on the shoulders of the very government that is doing these undemocratic things.

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Carleton—Mississippi Mills
Ontario

Conservative

Gordon O'Connor Minister of State and Chief Government Whip

Mr. Speaker, I find this outrageous. This has nothing to do with one party or another party. This is Parliament. We cannot have these outrageous demonstrations in Parliament. Civil disobedience is fine. Civil disobedience can be done anywhere in the country. It can be done on the lawn. However, this is the House of Commons, a very special place where laws are passed and budgets are passed. We cannot have these kinds of disturbances.

The member for Malpeque just made his comments. I notice that you are a member of Friends of the Canadian Wheat Board, as is Mr. Dean Harder, the person who demonstrated up there. Is that not an interesting coincidence? You also had your camera ready to take--

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Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

Order, please. I need to remind the hon. Chief Government Whip to address his comments through the Chair and not directly at other members.

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Conservative

Gordon O'Connor Carleton—Mississippi Mills, ON

Where I said, you, I meant you.

Mr. Speaker, this was an outrageous act in this Parliament that should not have happened. It would get resolved quickly if the people involved would apologize and promise not to do it again.

Members may remember that about a year ago a bunch of people from the environmental movement were also sponsored in here. They had their demonstrations. Why does demonstration after demonstration come from the same group of sponsors?

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Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

I hesitate to allow this to turn into a debate about the merits of government policies in terms of the flow of debate, but I see the opposition House leader rising, so I will take that intervention and then I think it is time to move on.

The hon. member for Windsor—Tecumseh.

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NDP

Joe Comartin Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Mr. Speaker, I had not intended to stand, but that last comment cannot go without a response.

Mr. Speaker, you heard very clearly from our whip. We all sponsor members of the general public to come here and sit in the galleries. We do that every single day.

To then attribute misbehaviour on behalf of one of those people that we sponsored to the individual who was the sponsor is just totally inappropriate. To make that kind of comment is wrong because at any given time one of those people who we provided a pass to sit in these galleries could be doing the same thing.

This weekend I will have been here 11 years. I have been through five incidents and in not one of those incidents, and I include the one that happened yesterday, can we point to the member of Parliament, who allowed the person to have the pass, having any foreknowledge that there was going to be an incident.

We have had five incidents and I do not believe there have been any other incidents. I was in the chamber every single time and there has never been an occasion when we could show that the member who was the sponsor had any knowledge of what was going to happen.

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Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

I understand the hon. member for Ottawa—Orléans is rising on a different point.

Statements by Members
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3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Royal Galipeau Ottawa—Orléans, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is with some sadness that I stand today to make this point, but if you will allow me some indulgence.

Concerning the five incidents that the opposition House leader just referred to, passing coincidence that in each of those five cases the individual was sponsored by a member of Parliament from the New Democratic Party.

As we just discussed, emotions were running high yesterday in the House. In addition, the hon. member for Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier rose in the House when I was not here with the specific goal of accusing me of saying things about the Auditor General that I did not say. Her statement can be found on page 3,456 of yesterday's House of Commons Debates.

For the record, I would like to remind the members of the House that I support the government's decision. We wanted bilingual candidates. Upon completion of a rigorous process, it was determined that the candidate chosen was by far the most competent applicant. I am happy to know that Mr. Ferguson has committed to becoming bilingual and that he has already been taking language courses for several weeks.

The hon. member knows full well that I am careful not to play partisan games. She also knows that I welcomed her here with all the dignity she deserves. She could have a promising future in the House, serving the riding of Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, her province and her country. For that to happen, she should avoid picking up bad habits and stick to what was said instead of putting words into the mouths of other members.

I would be pleased to provide you with a transcript of the speech I gave the day before yesterday before the Standing Committee on Official Languages.

In fact, I would be prepared to table it at this time if the House would give me unanimous consent.

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3:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

Does the hon. member have unanimous consent to table the document to which he is referring?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

No.

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Conservative

The Speaker Andrew Scheer

There is no consent.

The Chair will take the matter under advisement and come back to the House if necessary.

The hon. member for Yorkton—Melville is rising on a different point.