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Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was respect.

Last in Parliament October 2019, as Liberal MP for Regina—Wascana (Saskatchewan)

Lost his last election, in 2019, with 34% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Government Contracts June 5th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, since those issues were raised yesterday, I am checking very carefully on the arithmetic that was alleged. I want to get a complete picture of the entire advertising situation. For example, it was alleged yesterday that a certain amount accounted for all government advertising. That figure was in fact not correct.

I want to get all the arithmetic on the table and examine it to ensure that it does fit within the guidelines of both my department and the treasury board. If it does not, then the corrections will be made.

Government Contracts June 5th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, the problems found with respect to three Groupaction contracts caused the auditor general to take certain actions. She has reported those matters to the police. She is conducting a government-wide examination. Those are the proper actions to be taken in the circumstances. Wherever any indication of wrongdoing is found, the appropriate references to the police are made.

Government Contracts June 5th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, the RCMP has made it clear that its investigation will take it wherever it takes it and that it will pursue prosecution if that is appropriate based upon its investigation.

In the meantime the Prime Minister has asked the President of the Treasury Board to make a government-wide inquiry with respect to polling, advertising and sponsorships to ensure that the management framework and the governance system is appropriate. We will ensure that the system is transparent and proper.

Government Contracts June 5th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, the contracts that were in question have been specifically examined by the auditor general and there has been a reference to the RCMP.

I would note that in the auditor general's report she said “our conclusions cannot and do not pertain to any practices that Groupaction followed”. She was referring to the public service not to Groupaction.

In any event, I am confident that all ministers will be examining the business matters within their portfolios and determining that any contracting procedures are in fact appropriate.

Supply June 4th, 2002

Madam Chairman, I am just seeing if I can find for the hon. member the specific date in my materials. I can advise him that the date upon which the contract was issued was March 28, 2002.

In response to an earlier point that the hon. member made with respect to Chinese matters, I have asked my officials if they have any knowledge of that reference. To the best of their knowledge or information no.

Supply June 4th, 2002

Madam Chairman, as the hon. member probably knows the purchase was an off the shelf purchase. It was reviewed appropriately by ministers. I do not have before me tonight the exact date that those transactions would have taken place. I will see if I can find him further information.

Supply June 4th, 2002

Madam Chairman, I have no knowledge at all of the allegation the hon. member is making. I have no information before me that would indicate that the allegation is at all true.

Supply June 4th, 2002

Madam Chairman, to the best of my knowledge that is correct.

Supply June 4th, 2002

Madam Chairman, the hon. gentleman has referred to two specific treasury board guidelines. Let me make this undertaking to him. I will review those guidelines and get back to him at a later date and as rapidly as I can to satisfy him that the appropriate treasury board procedures are being respected.

Supply June 4th, 2002

Madam Chairman, I am trying to ensure that I clearly understand what the hon. gentleman is arguing. I would reserve the opportunity to come back to him on another occasion to discuss this in further and better detail.

Clearly there is an implication in that last question that somehow the contracting strategy with respect to this helicopter does not in some way respect the treasury board contracting policy with respect to best value. I believe our strategy is consistent with the contracting policy which states, and I will quote this phrase:

--the objective of government procurement contracting is to acquire goods and services and to carry out construction in a manner that enhances access, competition and fairness and results in best value or, if appropriate, the optimal balance of overall benefits to the Crown and the Canadian people. Inherent in procuring best value is the consideration of all relevant costs over the useful life of the acquisition, not solely the initial or basic contractual cost.

The best value and the lowest price are not necessarily mutually inconsistent, as I said, when we are dealing with something as complex as this transaction.

I would like to better understand exactly the point the hon. gentleman is making. Perhaps we are talking about the same thing and just using different phrases or perhaps we are on fundamentally different pages, but I clearly want to understand his point. I certainly would entertain the opportunity to carry on the dialogue with him because I treat the point seriously.