Mr. Speaker, this bill, in principle, deserves to be studied. In addition, the Supreme Court tells us that the immigration status of an accused should be taken into consideration. When reading the bill before us today, we get the impression that the mover understood that this was supposed to be the determining factor. That is obviously not what the Supreme Court said, and that is not what we think. It would be absurd if people with a precarious citizenship status could in fact commit crimes without punishment. I would be the first to be outraged and object to that.
However, things are not there yet. That is one factor among many. That is what the Supreme Court said, and that is what we are being asked to consider. However, we need to make a distinction between two scenarios.
Let us take the case of a drug trafficker who has already been convicted or charged in his own country, who finds himself in Canada and gets arrested with significant amounts of drugs, and says that he does not yet have Canadian citizenship status. Personally, I would not shed too many tears over the fact that he would never again have an opportunity to get his Canadian citizenship. I do not think that would be a big loss for Quebec society or for Canadian society.
Let us consider another case, a mother of three young children who is here waiting for her status, whose work permit has expired and has not been renewed for all sorts of administrative reasons. Her children have nothing left to eat, and she gets caught stealing a ham at the grocery store. That is an offence. It is theft, but will she be sent back to her country of origin because of it? The judge should not find her innocent of the crime since she did commit, but should it be a factor in sentencing? I think so.
The drug dealer who gets caught stealing a ham at the grocery store and the mother who gets caught doing the same thing may technically be committing the same offence, but I believe the court should take that into consideration. That is what we call judicial discretion or human justice. That is something Quebeckers believe in.
I would also be curious to hear someone talk about the frequency of crimes committed by newcomers. I am not sure there are that many. Newcomers are so focused on integrating, finding a job, learning the language, supporting their family and sorting out their health care and education needs that I doubt they would feel inclined to get mixed up in crime. I am not saying that it does not happen, but it is probably not a common occurrence that requires much of our attention.
On top of that, those among this group who commit crimes are not usually inveterate, dangerous or hardened offenders. I do not think there are many, if at all. In fact, the main cause of crime, whether for newcomers or long-time residents, is poor integration. These are people often called social misfits: people with no job and no interest in working, who for a variety of reasons live on the margins of society. They often commit offences like drug use, trafficking and so on. The problem, however, is that these people have fallen through the cracks of our society. They are are not well integrated or well adjusted. Social services try to help them and bring them back into the fold.
When we talk about newcomers, we are also talking about good integration. A poorly integrated newcomer will certainly be tempted by crime, convenience, theft, violence and drug trafficking. Poor integration will certainly encourage that type of situation. However, successful integration, with newcomers who have been taken care of, who have found a job, whose children are in school and who have learned the language, will ensure that those people do not commit crimes. If there are people, they are extremely rare. They will not come up.
What is the federal government doing to integrate newcomers? The bill before us proposes that newcomers who commit a crime be sent back to their home country. I agree, as I said earlier, at least in some cases. In other cases, I am less inclined to agree. That said, what is being done to integrate newcomers? What is being done to ensure that they do not fall into the trap of crime? Nothing is being done. There is no money and no transfers to the provinces. There are no resources. There is no collaboration between the federal government and the provinces.
The federal government sets its immigration thresholds and issues invitations. Members will recall when our former prime minister quite spectacularly invited all immigrants who were unhappy in the United States and who were not being treated properly to come here. He said that Canada would welcome them with open arms. He organized the party and sent out the invitations, but he forgot he had to buy beer and sandwiches for everyone. Many people came to Canada, and the vast majority of them entered Quebec.
Why did they come to Quebec instead of going elsewhere? That question may need to be explored at some point. I do not have that information or that kind of expertise. Nevertheless, they came to Quebec, and the province had no choice since immigration is a provincial responsibility. They had to be integrated, schools had to be paid and clothes had to be purchased. People need to be dressed for winter. It is cold during the winter, and people need boots and coats. They also need health care. Steps had to be taken to determine whether parents who wanted to work could get work permits. They had to be housed, despite the housing crisis. There has been much talk about the fact that the housing crisis was more pronounced because of the influx of migrants, yet the federal government never did anything to integrate them. The federal government left it up to the provinces to figure it out. They had to make the arrangements. Then the government wonders why these people are not integrated and why some of them commit crimes.
Before coming to the House, I did a quick Internet search on newcomers. I did not have to look very far. On August 30, 2025, just a few months ago, a Canadian-American family from Bromont was facing deportation after 15 years in Canada. Four of the six children are Canadian; they all speak French; they love Quebec; they are well integrated, and they want to stay. However, for reasons unknown, the mother received a deportation notice and had a choice between going on her own and leaving the children here, or taking them with her and returning to where she came from. That is not a very elegant integration process. The woman had not committed any crimes, and she was working.
I have another example, that of a family originally from Mexico. This is more recent news, from November 5. It was my colleague and friend, the member for La Pointe-de-l'Île, who stepped in. According to the newspapers, a Mexican family with two autistic children narrowly avoided being deported from Canada. That family found out that they were getting a reprieve just one hour before boarding the plane. The family has three young children and they have been in Quebec for seven years. Two of those children have severe autism and were born in Canada. I will not tell the rest of the story because I am running out of time.
Here is another example, from November 3. It concerns a 26-year-old man whose family is here in Quebec. His 24-year-old wife was presented with a fait accompli. She received a deportation notice. They have a child. She was forced to return to Mexico. He returned to Mexico with his wife and child because he did not want to leave her all alone. That is not very nice. That is what the federal government is doing in terms of integration.
There are not many options left for Quebec. We can continue to let the federal government bring people into our province without helping us integrate them, which creates untenable situations. We can also make a decision. We may have to make a decision and take control of all the levers. If Quebec wants to succeed, it will have to be sovereign and take control of all the levers. We will have to collect our taxes and use them to integrate these people. We will have to decide for ourselves who we welcome, when, where, and how we integrate them. In the meantime, we are subject to ill-conceived federal decisions that create problems for us. Unfortunately, I suspect we have not seen the end of it.
Quebec has to become independent in order to have full power, determine immigration thresholds, collect its own taxes, and use them appropriately. This is the only solution I see for us to get out of this situation, unless the federal government wakes up and decides to start working with the provinces and with Quebec.
