Evidence of meeting #12 for Afghanistan in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ground.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bill Matthews  Deputy Minister of National Defence, Department of National Defence
Wayne D. Eyre  Chief of the Defence Staff, Canadian Armed Forces, Department of National Defence
J.R. Auchterlonie  Commander of the Canadian Joint Operations Command, Department of National Defence
Steve Boivin  Commander, Canadian Special Operations Forces Command, Department of National Defence
A. D. Meinzinger  Commander, Royal Canadian Air Force, Department of National Defence
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Miriam Burke

8 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

That's clear, yes.

8 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Okay. I'm distressed by that answer as well.

Maybe you can give me a quick answer. If you were asked, would you be able to engage and provide support to bring further Afghans to safety?

8 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

Mr. Chair, it depends on the nature of the ask, where it would be, the numbers, the security situation—

8 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Third countries.

8 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

What third country?

8 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Pakistan.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Madam Kwan, one person at a time, please. This time is up, almost. Let General Eyre finish the conversation.

Please, go ahead.

8 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

As with any request for assistance, we would have to do an assessment. What is the nature of the request? What is the security situation? What is being asked of us, and then what options could we provide?

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Thank you, Madam Kwan.

We'll go to Mr. Hallan for five minutes.

Please, go ahead.

May 9th, 2022 / 8 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, leadership team, not just for being here but for your incredible service to Canada.

I wanted to follow up on a question by my colleague, Mr. Ruff.

We know that the government went into caretaker mode on August 15 when the election was called. Were there any changes in responses or coordination in any way, after that point?

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Hallan, is there a particular person that you—

8 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

General Eyre can answer.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

General Eyre, please go ahead.

8 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

Mr. Chair, no, the briefings that we would give—briefing up—continued on a daily basis. The interdepartmental coordination continued on a daily basis. As I said previously, the biggest impact was on our ability to publicly communicate.

8 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

Was that because you were told not to do it? What was the reason behind that?

8 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

My understanding is that, in the middle of the election, we were told not to.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

By who?

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Deputy Minister, go ahead.

8:05 p.m.

Deputy Minister of National Defence, Department of National Defence

Bill Matthews

If I could, when an election is called, you effectively go into what's called the “caretaker convention,” which effectively puts limits around what gets publicly communicated. It's less than when you're not in caretaker mode.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

UNHCR testified at this committee that they had briefed the government on January 2021 that Kabul was going to fall. Was your department ever made aware of that at all?

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

General Eyre.

8:05 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

Mr. Chair, I wasn't aware of the UNHCR briefing, but as I said earlier, no one can forecast with 100% certainty that any action is going to happen. I mentioned earlier what our own intelligence assessment was.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

To the best of your knowledge, of the interpreters who have been applying for these programs, have any interpreters who were identified as ones who served our country been deemed a security risk at all at your department's level?

8:05 p.m.

Gen Wayne D. Eyre

Mr. Chair, not to my knowledge.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

None at all.

Were there any—