Evidence of meeting #16 for Special Committee on the Canadian Mission in Afghanistan in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was documents.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

General  Retired) Rick Hillier (Former Chief of the Defence Staff, As an Individual
Michel Gauthier  Former Commander, Canadian Expeditionary Force Command, As an Individual
David Fraser  Project Director and Commander Designate, Joint Headquarters Renewal Project, Department of National Defence

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

It will be forwarded, yes.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Paul Dewar NDP Ottawa Centre, ON

Forthwith? Thank you, sir.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Now we have a notice of motion from Mr. Dosanjh.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Deepak Obhrai Conservative Calgary East, AB

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, Mr. Dosanjh is not here. Is it relevant to discuss his motion when he is not here, or is it withdrawn until he comes forth? What is the procedure?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

I have to ask, can we deal with a motion presented by a member who's not present? If another member moves it, we're okay.

Does anybody want to move this motion?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Mr. Chairman, I'll move it.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Okay, it's on the table for discussion. Does anybody want to speak to this motion?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

On a point of order, can Mr. Wilfert simply assume the authorship of that motion, Madam Clerk?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Well, the clerk advised me that another member could move the motion, or anybody could move the motion. Mr. Dosanjh has presented a notice of motion and somebody else can move, but the clerk is going to double-check. We'll just hold on for a second.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Mr. Chairman, could I withdraw and ask Ms. Neville, since she's the substitute? Would that make it easier?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

It looks as if, from what we can find out in the orders here, that is the way to do it. If Mrs. Neville is substituted in for Mr. Dosanjh, she can move his motion.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Bryon Wilfert Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

All right, then I'll withdraw it and I'll turn it over to Ms. Neville.

November 25th, 2009 / 5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Neville Liberal Winnipeg South Centre, MB

And Mr. Chair, accordingly, I will move Mr. Dosanjh's motion.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Okay, the notice of motion that was presented by Mr. Dosanjh has been moved by Madam Neville. Any discussion?

All those in favour of this motion, please signify.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Now we have a motion that was first passed by Mr. Dewar. The second motion is exactly the same as Mr. Dewar's, but there are a couple of added clauses. So now we're dealing with two motions that have been passed.

Mr. Hawn, you have supplied a notice of motion.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB

Thank you, Chair, and it's very simple: that notwithstanding any other motions, the special committee hear from David Mulroney on Thursday, November 26, 2009, from 3:30 p.m. to 5 p.m.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

You've heard the motion as read out by Mr. Hawn. Is there any discussion?

(Motion agreed to)

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Now we have another motion from Mr. Bachand.

Sir.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Claude Bachand Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

Mr. Chair, the two motions we have passed are quite sufficient to cover this matter. Therefore, I see no need to move our own motion. As far as language is concerned, I want to let Mr. Hawn know that I still wonder how I could have said such a thing. I promise that it will never happen again.

We withdraw our motion, Mr. Chair.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Mr. Bachand is not proposing his motion, and he thanks you, Mr. Hawn, for your note.

Now we have three motions passed. Did they?

5:10 p.m.

A voice

Yes.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

And they're somewhat contradictory.

5:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

So we're going to have to sort that out.

Go ahead, sir.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jim Abbott Conservative Kootenay—Columbia, BC

If I may, I think the motion that we passed of Mr. Hawn's is notwithstanding, and so therefore it stands on its own. I don't think it has to be part of the discussion of the reconciliation of the motions. The reconciliation of the motions is between Mr. Dewar's motion and the motion moved by Ms. Neville.