Right, but they got in touch with us to say it wasn't a sufficient process, which is why we had to change it.
So I don't understand why there is this notion that everything was fine, when everyone agrees there were problems. We say it was torture. We say that when you hit people with cables and use electric shock, that is torture. When you have problems like that you have to rectify them.
On what I have a problem with, if you're handing people over and you have no idea where they're going, how can you say they weren't being tortured? How can we sit here and say that from the period when Mr. Colvin was reporting and when they were being handed over.... Can you be 100% sure with absolute clarity that none of them were being tortured? Can you say that?