I think there's no question, from our experience, that the material we've put on the table for the NDS managers and leaders was extremely well received.
I would say there were a certain number of people who didn't get it. When you talked about the movement out of an autocratic management style and management culture into a participatory style, some people were not able to make that shift. And if they didn't make that shift, they were not able to get a commitment on the part of their subordinates to produce results.
I think people who did get it understood that this was possible and they understood what the result was that was required and then they pursued the result.