The second point is that there has been, I would say, a marked or notable difference in the levels of transparency that the U.S. government and the British government have shown with respect to their detainee operations compared with the Canadian government. For example, both the U.S. government and the British government have disclosed the number of detainees they've captured. The U.K. has even gone into detail about the dates individuals were captured and the dates they were transferred. All of that is withheld or kept secret in Canada. The names of detainees.... The United States has even disclosed the names of detainees who are captured and held in their prisons in Bagram.
Another issue is that there are some documents that are starting to come out of litigation in the United Kingdom. There is a similar challenge in the United Kingdom with respect to the transfer of detainees, and there are documents coming out of there--I've seen some--and there are far fewer redactions than what we see in Canada.