Thank you for being here.
We're beginning to see that there's no unanimity on this issue. That's why it's important to have this debate. If I understand your various statements, especially yours, Mrs. Jolly-Nagel, the debate is between individual freedom and collective freedom. There's some truth in saying that others shouldn't decide for you. Unfortunately, things do not always work as one would wish and one has to take account of the fact that we are all members of the same society. I'm referring it to society in general, even though we're speaking of the producers of Western Canada.
Stating that the majority cannot decide for the minority means that there's a problem with our democracy. We're being told that Quebec has decided to have a single marketing system for wheat. In Ontario, they have another system. There is choice. In Western Canada, you have the Canadian Wheat Board. The debate that has begun -- and my colleague Mr. Easter has even tabled a motion relating to the choice that should be made by the Western producers -- relates to holding a referendum. You are opposed to this idea because, according to you, if there is a mixed system such as the one proposed by the Conservatives, everyone will choose his or her camp and everyone would be happy. However, the concrete examples that we know have demonstrated that a voluntary collective market simply doesn't work.
Ontario has chosen one system and Quebec has chosen another. People in Western Canada want to have the right to choose. Don't you think that the real issue is related to choosing if there should be a Canadian Wheat Board or not? Don't you agree that the best way to choose in a democracy is to hold a referendum?