I'll comment on two or three items.
First of all, the circovirus program is something we have worked on with the government for quite some time. That money hasn't started to flow yet. I understand it will flow very shortly. We think it's an excellent program. It will help producers, going forward, to deal with the circovirus program.
The problems we had a few years ago for the most part are being solved because we have a vaccine available now and it works, and the government has seen fit to help make that vaccine available to producers. So that's going to be a very good program when the money starts to flow. However, it doesn't do anything for those producers who were devastated by the disease two or three years ago, especially in your province and in Ontario.
So we do applaud that program. That has a little bit different focus than the price crisis we're talking about right now.
We certainly indicated that we're a little bit concerned about comments made about loans flowing out to producers through the APP. I think Clare indicated the problems with that program.
We're probably calling on this group, which is all-party. Our indication is that legislation has to be changed. There's maybe a bit of frustration that had we tried to make those changes last fall, when we first started talking about this issue, they might be in place now.
I indicated to you that we need to see something happen in the next few days, or at least something announced. If you as a group got all parties together and said let's resolve to make these changes to this program so that this money—which I guess you could say is available if the changes were made—could be made available to producers, we would see that as an extremely good thing. It would deal with the crisis. It would give producers liquidity that we're asking for. But at this point, producers are given false hope, because it's really not available because of the issues Clare mentioned.
We hear stories about a producer who gets an APP loan one day and then two weeks later he has to pay it back with his CAIS cheque. It just makes no sense at all.
We think if the changes can be made, that would be really helpful.