No problem. We're used to it.
The other point I should make, Mr. Chair, which became evident last week, is that the Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food's performance report for 2008-09 shows that under the business risk management section, the Government of Canada paid out $961,400,000 less than in the previous year. That's an eight-year low in terms of funding from the government under business risk management programs, at a time when the grain growers were saying it could be used in other ways and when the cattle and hog industries were saying that there's a desperate need for money in their industries. When we're losing the hog industry because of low prices, they're being asked instead to go out and gain loans.
There are ways in which AgriFlexibility and BRM programs together could accommodate AgriFlexibility to put money into farmers' pockets, and that's what we should be thinking about. This committee, of all committees, shouldn't be worried about the Department of Finance in its entirety. Yes, I know this government is spending my grandchildren's money, but in terms of regular government programs--