Evidence of meeting #11 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agriculture.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marion Wrobel  Director, Market and Regulatory Developments, Canadian Bankers Association
David Rinneard  National Manager, Agriculture, BMO Bank of Montreal, Canadian Bankers Association
Darryl Worsley  Director, Agriculture Segment Business Banking, CIBC, Canadian Bankers Association
Gwen Paddock  National Manager, Agriculture and Agribusiness, RBC Royal Bank of Canada, Canadian Bankers Association
Bertrand Montel  Senior Advisor, Agribusiness and Agrifood Sector, National Bank of Canada, Canadian Bankers Association
Jon Curran  Manager, Agriculture Credit Products, TD Canada Trust, Canadian Bankers Association
Bob Funk  Vice-President and Director, Agricultural Services, Scotiabank, Canadian Bankers Association

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

You're not talking about the main report; I'm talking about the motion.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

No, I'm talking about the motion.

It was asked by you, Mr. Lemieux--

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

That was after the meeting.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

--and also, Mr. Hoback e-mailed me afterwards.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Oh, that's fine, Mr. Chair.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I believe any member can--

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

If you think this has all been arranged—

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Yes.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

--then perfect. Forget I raised it. That's fine.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Okay. Very good, then.

Other times you accuse me of not banging the gavel soon enough.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Yes, all right. No problem, then. That's good.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Very good.

Mr. Storseth, I had you on the speakers list.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

As the committee's working so well today, I thought I'd bring up an issue that's been raised in the last couple of days with regard to the grain companies starting to register their securities on operating loans or on the input cost loans that they're giving. This has potential for a lot of trouble. It could be very difficult for some of our grains and oilseeds farmers in particular.

So I'm giving notice that I'll be putting a motion forward to have CAAR, the Canadian Association of Agri-Retailers, come forward so we can talk to them about this and see if this is something they are seeing. I think it's very important, especially after just finishing a study on competitiveness, that we make sure we keep the industry as competitive as possible, and that means being there for the independents as well.

I think it would be very relevant to have CAAR come forward and tell us whether or not this is an issue they're seeing with many of their members.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Okay.

Just on our travel and what have you, I think everybody should note that we can deal with some committee business if there's an urgent need or if something comes up. I would stress, however, that since our travel is pretty intense timewise, if any motions or other business are brought up while we're travelling, each member should try to at least find out if there's unanimous consent so that we can limit debate.

I guess how I'm going to deal with it, if it doesn't appear there's unanimous debate for a motion or something, is that I'm basically not going to entertain it. You know, we have a limited amount of time. But if something comes up, I just want to stress that...

Take, for example, this motion we just dealt with from Mr. Eyking. If we hadn't had unanimous consent today, we could have dealt with that on Monday or Tuesday or whatever.

Just so we're clear on that; so your motion--

5:10 p.m.

An hon. member

[Inaudible--Editor]...Mr. Chair.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Certainly. We're on committee meetings. I don't see any reason why not.

Now, I'd never argue with you, Mr. Storseth, as far as the rules and procedures go, but I believe we have the powers to...

Mr. Hoback.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Just to speak to the motion, from what I understand, what's happening is that farmers, when they're doing their cash advances, have to go to their elevator agent to get him to sign off, and he's taking first place in security, which basically means the banks won't sign off. Or if they do sign off, that means the farmer can't go to other input suppliers and buy inputs. He has to buy them from that individual only.

That's the issue that Brian's trying to highlight.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Without getting into debating the motion--it hasn't even been tabled--would it be your intention, Mr. Storseth, to have them here at committee when we're back in town on the 5th?

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

If we're going to deal with this issue or we're going to look at it, I think it's going to have to happen quickly. I think the first logical step is to talk to CAAR and see what their position is and see what their solution is. The people I'm talking to don't necessarily know what the solution is either.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

My advice would be to table the motion so that we have 48-hours' notice, talk to our colleagues around the table, and, if there's agreement, then we can have them here on the 5th. The sooner we do that, the sooner Isabelle can invite them and have them here.

Okay?

If there's nothing else, I'll adjourn the meeting.

We'll see everybody in Kelowna either Sunday night or Monday morning.