The last question is for David. You talk about being in Europe. My parents are from Europe, and there is a whole different philosophy about farmers in Europe whether it's education or a recognition. I think the sad reality in Europe is they went through hungry years, and somehow they have a different concept of the importance of agriculture. We lose that because we've never had that in North America.
Let's say I was a young farmer coming from Europe, and I had three choices in where to go--New Zealand, or Washington state, or here. It seems like Washington determines the price of a lot of tree fruit here. Would it better to go to Washington? Are there better programs there? Is it better for growing? Or are they having the same problems down there?
What's the difference, I guess, if I were thinking of moving here or were a young farmer starting out? Where should I go? Or what's different down there from what's up here?